5 Man Algalon10.

[Idaho Immortal]

unless using drums of the forgotten kings feels like cheating to you, you shouldn't bring another paladin. if you consider taking a shadow priest for dispersion you'd probably want to take a warlock to buff the priest.
although it wouldn't matter anyways, as what you expect from them isn't possible right now. as people mentioned before me, players in togc 25 had way more buffs and debuffs, and you didn't calculate your downtimes due to stars and big bangs. the enrage timer is very problematic in this encounter. most bosses would be doable as 5 if it wasn't to the enrage.

It's possible to beat the Enrage though, or it will be once ICC HM gear is around. If it wasn't for add control, it'd be possible now.

[Achiistra]

if you consider taking a shadow priest for dispersion you'd probably want to take a warlock to buff the priest.

The Unholy DK is already doing a lot for the priest, +30% disease damage and +13% magic damage taken.

[Galith]

This will not work. At all. Dps won't matter if you only have 1 healer.


Algalon (Even on 10 man) hits HARD and FAST. Even EXTREMELY geared tanks (even in say ICC hardomode gear) just require a TON of healing to stay alive. THe healer would have to just stand there and spam (if he had to move because of cosmic crash or whatever the tank would die).

[Idaho Immortal]

The Unholy DK is already doing a lot for the priest, +30% disease damage and +13% magic damage taken.

I changed comp. He's probably right.

So I'm looking at

Druid pally tanks, shammy heals, lock and priest dps.

[mhiggs]

every time someone refutes this the op just responds with a "yes it is possible." what's the point of even bringing this up to discuss? :

[Idaho Immortal]

every time someone refutes this the op just responds with a "yes it is possible." what's the point of even bringing this up to discuss? :

because i have yet to see discrediting proof. numbers.

[Moshy]

because i have yet to see discrediting proof. numbers.

Numbers?
Tell me, Where are you going to get these legendary priests that can pull over 11k dps on a fight like algalon.
You would first off need an elemental shaman and a warlock/boomkin to even think about getting one dps numbers up there with the right buffs and then hope to high hell that the mage you've brought in has 100% crit chance.

OR if your stacking melee

Enhancement shaman, Rogue and rogue
and one rogue would lose alot of dps sundering.

Seriously man I think its hilarious that you think this is even possible at all.
Maybe in Cata ^^

[Deleted]

Silliest idea I've ever seen in my life ... have you actually tried algalon ? Clearly not ... sigh ... Look at it this way .. 2 tanks ... 2 healers ... 1 dps ... wow ... nice fail.

There is no possible way with current level / gear someone is going to solo heal that , especially with 2 DK tanks they take massive amounts of damage on this fight. Not to mention the amount of movement needed in the fight and co-ordination it's not possible to 5 man algalon hell he still is imo the hardest encounter in the game.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...land&n=Poldara

Starcaller just so the nerds don't start e-raging me telling me to go do the fight. I'm healing at about 6k HPS with 2 other healers...

[Kinnerdamon]

if you really want such a challenge try doing 10 agalon with full naxx gear (10 or 25) only using as many people you want that would be hard so nothing from heroics, or badges expect hero and valor, and nothing from holidays, and nothing from Ulduar, ToC, or ICC

[Revitalize]

Silliest idea I've ever seen in my life ... have you actually tried algalon ? Clearly not ... sigh ... Look at it this way .. 2 tanks ... 2 healers ... 1 dps ... wow ... nice fail.

There is no possible way with current level / gear someone is going to solo heal that , especially with 2 DK tanks they take massive amounts of damage on this fight. Not to mention the amount of movement needed in the fight and co-ordination it's not possible to 5 man algalon hell he still is imo the hardest encounter in the game.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...land&n=Poldara

Starcaller just so the nerds don't start e-raging me telling me to go do the fight. I'm healing at about 6k HPS with 2 other healers...

HPS IS SRS BSNS.

[magicism]

I'm healing at about 6k HPS with 2 other healers...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

/deep breath

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Oh that was classic

[Ace23323]

Our guild has 8 manned this (before ICC), so I'd imagine it might be possible with ICC Hardmode gear...

And if you have geared tanks, Algalon is a joke. Remember when this was actually "hard" content, tanks had like ~30k hp unbuffed and ~45% avoidance. Now, our guild MT (druid) is at 68k raid buffed and our OT (paladin) is a ~58k hp raid buffed. The paladin is unhittable, and the druid might as well be.

2 healed with H Paladin and R Shaman no problem. DPS isn't really an issue either....with 4 DPS the requirement is a joke, considering DKs, rogues, mages, and hunters can put up retarded numbers.

[Olderonous]

the dps req's arent the issue
single healing this will be damn near impossible

[Sarevokcz]

Our guild has 8 manned this (before ICC), so I'd imagine it might be possible with ICC Hardmode gear...

And if you have geared tanks, Algalon is a joke. Remember when this was actually "hard" content, tanks had like ~30k hp unbuffed and ~45% avoidance. Now, our guild MT (druid) is at 68k raid buffed and our OT (paladin) is a ~58k hp raid buffed. The paladin is unhittable, and the druid might as well be.

2 healed with H Paladin and R Shaman no problem. DPS isn't really an issue either....with 4 DPS the requirement is a joke, considering DKs, rogues, mages, and hunters can put up retarded numbers.

dunno where you got some numbers, but tanks equipped for Alga10 dont have only 30k unbuffed, thats what my DK alt geared with 200ilev naxx10 epics has. and your tanks certainly wont have 68/58k and max avoidance if its just "5man" ...

do it, fraps it, then come and gloat about it...

[frostsomething]

Algalon10 was 2 healed a long long time ago, so hrm...

What a lot of people are overlooking as far as healing goes is that when you cut the raid from 10 to 5 people, the raid takes a TON less damage. I feel pretty confident saying you can't 1 heal a full Algalon10 raid, but only 5 people? Hrm...

I'd have to look into the numbers with way overgeared tanks before I say either way, but do consider how little damage (relatively) the Stars will do when they Collapse. Plenty of time to get the raid back up. A Holy Pally would be able to do this easily with Beacon on the tank, though I would worry about mana issues by the end of the fight.

[Ace23323]

dunno where you got some numbers, but tanks equipped for Alga10 dont have only 30k unbuffed, thats what my DK alt geared with 200ilev naxx10 epics has. and your tanks certainly wont have 68/58k and max avoidance if its just "5man" ...

do it, fraps it, then come and gloat about it...

I'm pretty sure Uld10 came out right after naxx10. So yeah buddy, those of us who actually killed him when he was current tier were in iLevel 213-219-226 gear (232 if we were lucky). That means tanks didn't have 45k HP+ unbuffed. They were in NAXX gear (which last time I checked was 200/213) and which was usually ~30-33k hp unbuffed. Remember, this was before epic gems too brah. Sorry you didn't actually DO the content when it was CURRENT.

Hmm...so lets think about the +stam buffs we can bring if we're 8-manning the boss.

1 H Paladin = kings/sanc
1 Destro Lock = Blood Pact
1 Druid Tank = GotW
+Fort Scroll
+flask of stoneblood....

Last time I checked brah those are the big +stam buffs...and lookie there we've got all of them (minus improved commanding shout, but meh, so he has 67k hp instead of 68k. Big deal. Avoidance wise, lets see here:

SoE totem = Agi/Str buff
Kings (covered already)
GoTW (covered already)

Looks like he's going to be pretty much close to unhittable too. I didn't say we 5 manned it either, we 8 manned it awhile ago. Reading is hard.

[lglkle]

I'm pretty sure Uld10 came out right after naxx10. So yeah buddy, those of us who actually killed him when he was current tier were in iLevel 213-219-226 gear (232 if we were lucky). That means tanks didn't have 45k HP+ unbuffed. They were in NAXX gear (which last time I checked was 200/213) and which was usually ~30-33k hp unbuffed. Remember, this was before epic gems too brah. Sorry you didn't actually DO the content when it was CURRENT.

Hmm...so lets think about the +stam buffs we can bring if we're 8-manning the boss.

1 H Paladin = kings/sanc
1 Destro Lock = Blood Pact
1 Druid Tank = GotW
+Fort Scroll
+flask of stoneblood....

Last time I checked brah those are the big +stam buffs...and lookie there we've got all of them (minus improved commanding shout, but meh, so he has 67k hp instead of 68k. Big deal. Avoidance wise, lets see here:

SoE totem = Agi/Str buff
Kings (covered already)
GoTW (covered already)

Looks like he's going to be pretty much close to unhittable too. I didn't say we 5 manned it either, we 8 manned it awhile ago. Reading is hard.

Not meaning to burst your bubble or anything.. but Algalon even ten man wasn't killed until four weeks after Ulduar came out. So if yourtanks were still using Naxx gear, you fail at making shit up.


edit for : brah

[Shiira]

Not meaning to burst your bubble or anything.. but Algalon even ten man wasn't killed until four weeks after Ulduar came out. So if yourtanks were still using Naxx gear, you fail at making shit up.


edit for : brah

Random loot is random.

[Wani]

2 healed with H Paladin and R Shaman no problem.

Ask your H paladin to heal the tank and the raid while moving, then we're talking. Now, assuming you can actually solo heal the fight in a complete raid, let's try this again with only 2 dps.

No, not possible.

[Daedelus]

I just can't see a 5-man Algalon kill happening. There is a fair bit of movement and big splash damage on the raid ( not to mention the tanks of course )
Maybe, just maybe, fully kitted out in full end of ICC gear it could be possible, but not at the moment.