But since they are not a grim true cult frostbitten band and they "sold out" before the last three albums, I don't expect you to see it, but they WERE an influence for many many bands.
But whatever, I don't think any list like that is good anyways since as you said yourself before, it is way too subjective so /careface.
Last edited by Uldreth; 2012-03-31 at 12:07 PM.
With that said I am not sure if it is relevant anyways, as bands like Norther or Wintersun don't really build on the Arcturus-type synth playing but on the CoB-type synth playing.
Especially now , they have a new better singer & more varied songs
I get the feeling some people seem to have some idea that Obscure > Mainstream but for no actual/valid reasons. No. It does not make you cooler to listen to bands nobody has ever heard of.
Last edited by WaitingforMoP; 2012-03-31 at 03:47 PM.
Just actually found this thread, and I'm glad I did. Chances are I can find some metalcore fans here, so I thought I'd share a pretty good upcoming band. If anyone is interested, look up Adestria and listen to Outsiders. Their CD just came out on 3-26-12, and it's entitled Chapters.
Technically once you've heard one metalcore band, you've heard em all, but I'm a fan of the genre so yeah, that's that.
Here's a link to the suggested song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Dq7JJJ1wI
However, if just the OP determines what should and shouldn't be on the list then its going to become inherently biased to the tastes of the OP. But if everybody has a say then the "essential Metal Albums" thread just becomes the "Metal Albums" thread. I can't think of any fair method unless as Duilliath said to somehow determine what is and isn't influential on a specific genre or sub-genre, but different people will always have their own opinions...
I feel like I should post something instead of just talking
Last edited by Kreyzor; 2012-03-31 at 05:51 PM.
If you dislike COB well.... then all of your opinions are officially dead to me
Last edited by WaitingforMoP; 2012-03-31 at 10:25 PM.
Oh, and Dragonforce is quite possibly one of the worst bands I've ever seen live.
Last edited by nbm02ss; 2012-03-31 at 10:38 PM.
And the funny thing is I really don't mind repetition (SPELLINGZ?????) at all so when it gets so repetetive it bothers me then you know there is something stinky there.
DF is way too cheesy, self repeating and pointless for my taste. But then again I dislike the vast majority of EU power metal.
I would say an essential album is one that showcases its genre(s) very well while being, generally speaking, a good or great album.
If you listen to ISIS - Panopticon, you'll get a pretty good idea about what Post-Metal sounds like. If you listen to Opeth - Blackwater Park, you'll get a good understanding of what Progressive Death can sound like (and folk interludes). If you listen to Underoath - Define the Great Line, you'll get a good idea about what modern Metalcore sounds like.
If you were to listen to one of Neurosis' more experimental albums, !T.O.O.D.! - Pod vladou bice, or SikTh you're not going to get a great understanding of those albums' genres from the standpoint of a "new" listener.
Similarly, I find Dragonforce to be repetitive. I enjoyed the Helloween-on-speed feel for a tiny bit, but it really feels like most of the songs they have are just a rehash. There's very few bands that stay interesting to me despite being repetitive.
I still think if they started building on what you said as "Helloween-on-speed" but varied songwriting a bit and made it more "serious", it'd be a great power metal band but as they are now, aside from occasional fun listens they just bore me.
Sidenote, this entirely discussion and back n forth talk demonstrates why an 'essential' metal thread would be exceedingly hard to put together.
Last edited by Kreyzor; 2012-04-01 at 02:43 PM.