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  1. #21

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortunado
    On a scale of 1 to chin, Deathwing definitely wins.

    On a serious note though, he is by far the most physically powerful aspect while Alexstraza who controls all of life, in theory, could be stronger.
    Seriously, change your avatar. People is getting offended by that.
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  2. #22

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cearat
    Seriously, change your avatar. People is getting offended by that.
    /agree.. that guy should put on some pants :
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  3. #23

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by yaij9841
    First define 'strong" all the aspects have power in their own ways. In lore, deathwing was just about immune to all forms of dmg except for alextraza's attacks, but Alex didn't do anything but share a bit of pain with him.

    For all intents and purposes, Nozdormu can win any fight up untill his time of death, which would priolly be tied to his attempts at winning every fight.
    How is that different from anyone else?

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    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yakisoba

    -Deathwing
    -Alexstrasza
    -Nozdormu
    -Ysera
    -Malygos
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  5. #25

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldarc
    How is that different from anyone else?
    he has a set time of death that he's seen and for every other point of near death he can turn back time and retry over and over again. he's the only one that gets that. so he already knows how he dies and by who's hand. He might die by his own hand for all we know.

    edit: where as the rest have to run away from the fight wasting time and resources to set up anything all over again. Nozdorum only needs to go back to the point of his mistakes and try again, sort of like how most kids play single player RPG's
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  6. #26

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Nozdormu would win over everyone. If we ignore the fact about not meddling in the past and blabla and just have them against each other. Power against power. Nozdormu would be unbeatable. He can freeze time. this isn't some naruto episode where the one with the most chakra wins. He can FREEZE time...They can't do SHIT...Because he FREEZES time. And if he somehow is about to lose. He can just redo it again.

    And you can't really try to "Surprise" him with any tricks or whatever. He knows them before you've even thought of them.
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  7. #27

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cearat
    Seriously, change your avatar. People is getting offended by that.
    His avatar is also 1522.45 KB over the maximum allowed size. It's been reported, and expect it to be removed soon.

    On topic, you really do need to define some boundaries for answers. If you're going to allow Neltharion to be considered with all of the powers that the Old Gods bestowed upon him, then he's the obvious winner. Otherwise, it would probably be Nozdormu.

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  8. #28

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    If there was no regaurd for the future, then Nozdormu would win hands down. You just can't beat the ability to go back if you mess something up. He could keep doing the fight over and over again untill he got it right. It would probobly mess up the future, but if defeating deathwing was our only goal, it could be done.
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  9. #29

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    They get to fight in their prime at their strongest point. They can use their powers anyway they want.

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    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    "The Master" - Leader of the Infinite Dragonflight
    Nothing is know about him yet, so we can't really come to a conclusion until we know more about him.
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  11. #31

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snes
    "The Master" - Leader of the Infinite Dragonflight
    Nothing is know about him yet, so we can't really come to a conclusion until we know more about him.
    it's been hinted that Nozdormu is their leader because he Is corrupted

  12. #32

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by starvethedead
    Clearly Deathwing is the strongest, otherwise Alexstrasza, Nozdormu & Ysera would be able to pwn him without the help of mortals.
    They did pwn him once Demonsoul was destroyed. Deathwing went "I will be back and I will get your little doggy as well" when he fled from the flight against his brother and sisters.

  13. #33

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by yaij9841
    he has a set time of death that he's seen and for every other point of near death he can turn back time and retry over and over again. he's the only one that gets that. so he already knows how he dies and by who's hand. He might die by his own hand for all we know.

    edit: where as the rest have to run away from the fight wasting time and resources to set up anything all over again. Nozdorum only needs to go back to the point of his mistakes and try again, sort of like how most kids play single player RPG's
    So what? He has a set time of death? When is that? Whenever he dies or is killed. This is no different than anyone else.

  14. #34

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    My vote would either go to Nozdormu or Deathwing.
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  15. #35

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Well theoretically, In theory, Nozdormu would be the strongest one because he is the Master of Time and time itself is the fourth dimension of reality. However realistically and practicality, he would never abuse his powers. He wouldn't "go through every scenario before a fight" or do anything that would insure his victory. He lets time flow as it is and only intervenes if a third party somehow messes up the time-stream drastically. Why do you think Deathwing (Neltharion) was able to create the Dragon's Soul/Demon's Soul? Nozdormu does not use his powers completely and so would not be able be considered the "strongest".

    My vote for the strongest has to be Ysera even if people disagree otherwise. First of all, Ysera commands an entire freaking world/realm. When lording over the Emerald Dream, she also has powers over all nature! Since all/most sentient creatures have to sleep, they will all dream and eventually step into the boundaries of the Emerald Dream where Ysera has power. She can do anything to them while they're in the Dream even trap them there if she wants (like she did with the druids in Moonglade) so that the creature never wakes up. Shes so awesome she creates an entire in-game class the "Druids" by giving them a small power over nature.
    Oh and Ysera and the Emerald Dream will get their own expansion like Deathwing and Cataclysm. (We all know its true don't deny it.)

  16. #36

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    My vote goes to the Titans who are going to come back /facepalm then set about finding the reset button on azeroth.
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  17. #37

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raidenx
    They get to fight in their prime at their strongest point. They can use their powers anyway they want.
    Deathwing. Two words. Demon soul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldarc
    So what? He has a set time of death? When is that? Whenever he dies or is killed. This is no different than anyone else.
    I think you misunderstand. He could literally attempt to commit suicide, but because he CANNOT BE KILLED until the hour that he has seen, he wouldn't die. If anyone else attempted that they would, in fact, die.

  18. #38

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    More importantly than "Nozdormu has a set time of death" is that he knows exactly when, where, and how that death occurs. Which means he fights with the knowledge that he cannot/will not die to Deathwing (unless it happens that this is the time he was intended to die anyway). Also, he can stop time, which really doesn't bork anything up (his drakes do it all the time for minor stuff) and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't hesitate.

    1) Freeze Nelth in time.
    2) Let everyone beat on him.
    3) Win.

    Also worth noting that Deathwing can't catch Nozzie unless Nozzie lets him.

  19. #39

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Archimedes
    I think you misunderstand. He could literally attempt to commit suicide, but because he CANNOT BE KILLED until the hour that he has seen, he wouldn't die. If anyone else attempted that they would, in fact, die.
    No, it is you who appears to misunderstand. He was shown when and how he would die. This very well could be tomorrow after he gets an infection from a splinter or two days from now from a carbon monoxide leak in his house. This does not mean that he CANNOT BE KILLED, only that he knows the time, place, and events surrounding his death. The Titans gave him a humility check, not invulnerability until the appointed time. And if that time is tomorrow when a group of 10 adventurers knock on his door for loot, then that is when it will be. And if he is to die fighting Deathwing in a hypothetical cage match, then that is when he will die.

  20. #40

    Re: Which Dragonflight leader is the strongest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nraktja
    Alextstrasza definitely, she controls life itself.. She has 139 mil hp, think about it. Even Deathwing won't have that much hp when we face him.
    Blood Queen Lanathel has over 60 million on 25-man, I bet she'll have another 5-10k added on heroic mode, that's almost half of Alexstrasza's health, I'm sure Deathwing will have triple her health
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