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    Building a computer.

    Hey guys. So im going to get my own computer (and make it myself). Im taking some computer courses now so im not computer illiterate or anything (not that i was before), just new to building computers and optimizing.
    So I dont really have a budget (That doesnt mean i can spend whatever), however i would like to keep it under $2000 starting and i would really like a $1000-$1500 build. Ive already looked for parts and have mostly everything, but the price is currently at 1800-1900 and i wouldnt mind if it dropped some. So if you guys could help me lower the cost that would be great.
    Motherboard: ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    284.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131614
    Processor/CPU: Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
    $288.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115202
    RAM: G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5S-2GBPQ
    $44.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231121
    Cooling (More on this below): Water Cooling system
    $431
    GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1180-AR GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    $389.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130480
    Optical Drive: Pioneer Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer Model BDR-205BKS
    $219.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827129051
    HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3EG HD203WI 2TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
    $179.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152202
    Ok. a few notes. Open for suggestions:
    1) I'm going to get a couple sticks of ram. maybe two now and two more later.
    2) For the optical drive, i can buy a cheaper (way cheaper) dvd drive now. and pay for this or something similar later.
    3) For my HDD, im getting 2tb because ive been ready to smash in my parents computer lately cause its constantly running out of space. I plan on getting a SSD later (Probably the first thing ill upgrade), any suggestions on good SSD's?
    4) For the GPU, im going with nvidia because im going to get the 3d vision kit. otherwise i would go for radeon.
    5) Im not sure what to get for a case, i want to be able to fit my radiator into my case. I would like a really cool looking on (If it has lights, preferably red, cause im horde, but thats beside the point). I also found this website that lets you design your own case and they'll make it for you.
    http://www.protocase.com/design/index.php
    6) Ok, now onto the water cooling. I followed two websites that explained things about water cooling, basics, what you need, that stuff. Im still not totally confident that i picked the best stuff, so i thought i would run this by you guys two, while im here.
    The websites are:
    http://www.overclockerstech.com/wate...for-beginners/
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...rcooling-guide

    Heres what i picked out.

    Reservoir:
    5.25 inch bay:
    Danger Den Single 5 1/4" Bay Reservoir
    29.95
    http://www.dangerden.com/store/dange...reservoir.html
    OR (Couldnt decide, depends on computer tower i guess, although i was leaning towards dangerdens)
    3.5 inch bay:
    Bitspower 3.5in. Bay Res - White Acetal (POM) - BP-WT350P-WH
    33.95
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bi3bayreswha.html
    Pumps:
    Swiftech MCP655 12v DC Pump - with Speed Controller
    75.95
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmc12vdcpu.html
    Water blocks:
    CPU block:
    Swiftech Apogee XT CPU Waterblock
    79.95
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swapxtcpuwa.html
    GPU Block:
    Swiftech MCW60-R Revision 2 Retail VGA Waterblock
    39.95
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcre2revga.html
    Swiftech GTX285 heatsink compliment to the MCW60
    29.95
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swgthecotomc1.html
    Chipset Block:
    MPC-Universal Chipset Block
    38.50
    http://www.dangerden.com/store/mpc-u...lock.html#tabs
    Radiators:
    Swiftech MCR320-Res Quiet Power 3X120mm
    64.95 (x2)
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcqupo3xbl1.html
    Tubing:
    PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Red Tubing -1/2in. ID X 3/4in. OD
    2.25 per foot
    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23368
    DD-Delrin 90 Degree
    7.99 (+5 for fittings)
    http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd-delrin-90-degree.html
    Stainless Steel Worm-Drive Hose Clamp
    1.00 (x12)
    http://www.petrastechshop.com/ststwohocl.html

    I thought that it was kinda expensive, what do you guys think? Also, the guide said have two seperate radiators, one for i7 and the other one for the other 2 waterblocks. but it said they run off the same pump, can someone explain this?
    Thanks for the help and input. sorry for the giant wall of text.
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    Re: Building a computer.

    That is DDR2 RAM, you need DDR3. GPU is silly, just get a 5850 or 5870 which will run circles around that one you picked. Get a 1TB WD Black drive, and drop the useless bluray drive. 3D is useless and will just give you a headache with the current implementation. Get the Intel 80 or 160gb SSD with the money you saved.

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    Re: Building a computer.

    Quote Originally Posted by chaud
    That is DDR2 RAM, you need DDR3. GPU is silly, just get a 5850 or 5870 which will run circles around that one you picked. Get a 1TB WD Black drive, and drop the useless bluray drive. 3D is useless and will just give you a headache with the current implementation. Get the Intel 80 or 160gb SSD with the money you saved.
    Hmm ok. Does the Mobo only take DDR3? or does it just work better with DDR3? I was really hoping for the 3d actually... but i guess i could spring for the radeon. What do you mean by its current implementation?
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    Re: Building a computer.

    Only DDR3, the 3D offered by nvidia is buggy, not amazingly widely supported, and useless. Just get a 5850 or 5870 and enjoy the much better features.

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    Re: Building a computer.

    For your case I would suggest the Antec 1200, which can be found on newegg. It has LOADS of room and existing rubber coated running holes for your water cooling tubes. Sadly, Chaud is correct in that an nvidia card is really not a great investment atm.

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    Re: Building a computer.

    In terms of the watercooling what you basically do is either have the lines in series or parallel. If you've got them in series then you'd have something like reservoir -> pump -> CPU block -> radiator -> Chipset block -> GPU block -> Radiator. If you're going parallel then after the pump you'd have a splitter with the CPU block & radiator on one line, and chipset, GPU & radiator on the other. Generally serial is the better approach as the water moves quite a bit slower in parallel. What's actually much more common is to use two pumps if you're going to use two radiators, but again this bumps the cost up, however if you're not going to do this you're probably better off just using a single large radiator anyway.

    Having said all that, are you really sure that water cooling is right for you? There are actually very few situations where water cooling is the right path to take, so unless you're doing it just because you want to play around with water cooling, or brag about high overclocks, then I'd seriously suggest sticking with a decent air cooler which will give you almost as good a job anyway.

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    Re: Building a computer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legendary
    For your case I would suggest the Antec 1200, which can be found on newegg. It has LOADS of room and existing rubber coated running holes for your water cooling tubes. Sadly, Chaud is correct in that an nvidia card is really not a great investment atm.
    Either that (though it's quite big and heavy!) or go for a Cooler Master HAF 922, or a Cooler Master CM 690.
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    Re: Building a computer.

    Great company, Great Ram.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231223

    Little more headroom if you want to overclock later on...(at own risk) +10$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231225

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