Ensidia suspended for 72 Hours

[Ryya]

The Ban is utterly disgraceful by Blizzard, some employee should get the sack for this and then maybe think about better internal testing methods.

[phoenixia]

If the floor, which didn't reemerge during the 10 man fight happened to come back in the 25 man fight, it means something is wrong, and with Blizzard that means you need to report it.

Guilds that reap the rewards of a bug to gain a world first or any kill for that matter are exploiting when they specifically know it isn't supposed to happen (which Ensidia said they did). Rightfully they should have stopped and reported it and waited for a hotfix, but they didn't because they were so wrapped up with getting the world first.

Well, Each time a guild (especially Ensidia) is on race for the first kill (especially Arthas) you can be sure that a lot of GM/dev are in gm-mode above them, watching how the fight's going. So they would see the repop, and the exploit.

Now the question is, why they didn't pop in the room and juste said "stop everything, we gonna fix a bug" ?

[razkah]

You guys who are discussing the details of the saronite bug (whether you have to use it on the edge, missing platforms, whatever), you do realize it's hotfixed so it doesn't work whatever you do... right?

[Offhand]

Ban appropriate? No, not really.

Discounting it as a world first and taking away loot/achievements associated with it? Sounds good to me.

Muqq being a total whiny botch about it? Priceless

Blizzard doing this likely because it means Arthas didn't even last as long as Yogg? Maybe.

Funny though, that this counts as a ban but not flower power.

[Pwnedbeauty]

No i dont think its fair they got banned.

On the other hand its not the end of the world for ensidia and any other involved. Remember this was normal mode, not hard mode.

When the realm race with hardsmodes start, everyone will have forgotten this.

GO ensidia take world first Lich King heroic 25 man - Hopefully without a blizzard mistake that you will get punished for.

[Aerts]

The Ban is complete and utter B.S. on Blizzard's part. They discovered a bug in the game and they get punished for it? Loot and achievement should be removed, but the ban is completely unnecessary.

Take it from someone who has been banned three times, 99% of the time you're suspended or banned it's because you were deliberately or associated with breaking the rules. Sometimes they will make a mistake with the Auction House and the whole "farming" thing, but they wouldn't just ban Ensidia because they found a bug.

You can't take what Ensidia is saying for truth, they're not going to admit any wrong doing because Blizzard will probably never reveal their true reasons for the ban, as in any details of the encounter bug, it's policy.

[raevlol]

Punish the player, the raid, the guild for being themselves - most dedicated raiding guild- rather than accepting that their own QA team has "let one go" once again. Irony!

[Moomurr]

The Ban is complete and utter B.S. on Blizzard's part. They discovered a bug in the game and they get punished for it? Loot and achievement should be removed, but the ban is completely unnecessary.

Indeed.

Blizz are mental for banning the people who found the bug and reported it. Next time any guild finds a bug why the fook would they report it now?

[Zefie]

I am glad Ensidia got suspended for their actions. They posted they didn't know the bombs were rebuilding the platform?PUH-LEASE...they know exactly what's happening in their encounters at all times. Cheap move to play the ignorance card.

Hopefully another guild gets the real 25 Man - First achievement while Ensidia are suspended, they don't deserve it, or any publicity ever again.

Ensidis are a bunch of hacks and tools.

I'd like for you to tell me why the Fiery Flames of Fire aren't doing damage to people, exclusively on 25-man after 4 tries.

[IKT]

They should suspend blizzard's dungeon creators for not ruling this sort of bugging out instead of the players who found the bug.

They should be grateful...

lmao no.

[Bornams]

Why does that rogue have a lvl 80 rogue alt?

[jairash]

so how is supposed a ppl to target something invisible?:|

[Bergg]

Fact of the matter is, you don't know exactly what happened,

Except I do, because I know the fight, and the fight is very specific. There is a very small, very specific amount of ways to kill this boss. How can you question what happened when you know that all of the rogue's saronite bombs hit enemies on the same specific boss attempt where their platforms respawned early? This PROVES that they tanked the Lich King and the adds at the edge of the platform, which PROVES that they knew that the valkyrs would not be a threat to them, because they were AWARE of the exploit. If the outer platform had not respawned early via the exploit, the valkyrs would have simply grabbed their raid members, flown 2 yards forward, and their raid members would have died one by one by one by one.

It's as simple as knowing the fight.

[Tun]

Oh, wow, really? Ensidia is allowed to post on public forums now? That's speaks.. miles.

They're called Raging Spirits, by the way. Apparently you don't know what you're talking about--which doesn't surprise me, considering you trivialized three separate aspects of the encounter by exploiting. Raging Spirits spawn during the outer platform phases, like I said. During the outer platform phases, the outer platform respawns no matter what. Again, that's not what is in question. What is in question is the outer platform spawning--via your exploit--during the Defile/Valkyr phases.

You do realise that you asked when we hit the outer platform with bombs, right? I just explained that to you.

[Breezy]

I'm tired of Blizzard acting like their bosses can't possibly have bugs. By now, they should know high-end guilds like Ensidia will find a way to exploit it any way they can, and quite frankly, they are quite smart for doing so. From now on, I think any "World First" kill should be accompanied by a, "for now..." since it seems Blizzard will always find a way to ban people.

[IKT]

Why does that rogue have a lvl 80 rogue alt?

so they can run more 10 man raids and artificially extend the "x number of attempts"

[Vehemence]

Rofl @ that mail, show's how degraded of a raider that person is. Absolutely Abysmal:| Who ever it was, you hug your mom with those fingers?

[einstein]

Rofl

[halogen]

again

[Kyocere]

It was Blizzard's fault.
The ban is a joke.

Bugs happen. The fact is they did it on 10 man, they knew the mechanics. Something went different in 25 and they decided to roll with it. It is their own faults and deserve the suspension. If they are so blazingly amazing they will go back in three days and kill him again.