They've already been banned for it, justice is done, they owe you nothing, drop the subject?
They've already been banned for it, justice is done, they owe you nothing, drop the subject?
Kungen already stated that they ignored killing the Val'kyrs when they had the bug. I assume that's why they got banned.
Wow... you got trolled big time, you know that?Originally Posted by Scorage
For anyone that laugh at Muqq, click this link and read the bottom:
He was just making fun of Tigole, Blizzard employee.
1. Actually, yes, Blizzard would change their mind. In the incident with the guild of the guy one-shotting Ulduar bosses with Martin Fury, all of the guild members online at the time were banned regardless of whether or not they were present at the raid. However, soon thereafter those who were innocent found their accounts restored.Originally Posted by sofield
2. That's a real shame if they think that. And in many instances, if this is the actual reasoning offered, arrogance is being used to mask guilt. "Oh no, I don't need to prove my innocence to you people because I'm better than all of you peasants anyway." Replace peasants with scrubs, noobs, bads, you pick. No one with half a brain is going to be convinced otherwise by any ad hominem.
3. Well, that's that, so nothing to fear now, right?
If there's really nothing to incriminate Ensidia, then I'm positive their accounts will be restored before the 72-hour suspension will have run out. And at that, if there is nothing incriminating in the video Ensidia undoubtedly recorded of the encounter, if they provided this evidence to Blizzard they might have already had their accounts back.
First gz on kill!!!
Nowadays on the world of easycraft where gear is given away for free,dungeons bosses get nerfed everyweek, and players always exploited bugs i remenber some achiev like respect your elders were done using bugs.Ensidia should not be punished, they just outsmarted blizz team .They should get a job on Blizz may be then boss encounters will be released without bugs. Blizz has failed big time releasing a real easy and bugged boss, this should be the hardest boss in wotlk but i think ppl will remenber how hard Yogg was or Algalon but not LK from WOTLK expansion.
There is lots of fanboy in this one.Originally Posted by rhyun
I wouldn't prove my innocent to people who don't know a thing about me and what i did, who flame, blame and insult me just because they feel like it (childish behaviour). But you would prove your innocent to a 10 year old who has no clue what is wrong or right or what happened in the first place, right?2. That's a real shame if they think that. And in many instances, if this is the actual reasoning offered, arrogance is being used to mask guilt. "Oh no, I don't need to prove my innocence to you people because I'm better than all of you peasants anyway." Replace peasants with scrubs, noobs, bads, you pick. No one with half a brain is going to be convinced otherwise by any ad hominem.
The kill was not legit, because it was bugged. But no one knows if it was on purpose or not. Except maybe Blizzard who also won't provide any information to prove they are right.
Hey, maybe try posting this on the Ensidia homepage instead of MMO Champion, I bet they would see it quicker! Or, just try not caring at all since none of this matters.
Always remember, freedom of speech is very important to everyone...as long as what you have to say coincides with what everyone else's popular opinion is.
Oh boy, just wait for the hard mode, damnit....Originally Posted by rhyun
I don't remember Yogg-25 normal mode was that hard, was he?Originally Posted by rhyun
I assume top guilds used ~10 attempts to kill him then too.
Algalon was considered a "heroic" boss, since you had to do hard-modes.
Let's see how many guilds can kill Heroic Lich King-25 in a few days...
With all the rage that ensidia is sending on how its unjustified for the ban and everything else first thing i'd do is prove blizzard was wrong. Why? because then it shows your justifiably mad and not just raging to cover up the fact that you used a bug to win. And honestly all they need to do is put the information on their site not on every internet forum. Word will get around on the post and people will go see it.Originally Posted by Gilian
On a sidenote your 10 year old comment just makes you part of those behaving like children. Honestly if your going to say people need to stop behaving like children then you shouldn't drop childish insults in your post.
Ensidia hasn't released a video wortha damn since ulduar man. They are a dead guild to me.
Ensidia will not give a video :
poptisse on Thursday, February 4, 2010 23:09message
I honestly don't think anyone frapsed, atleast the question was asked earlier today in our private IRC channel and as far as I could see noone responded. The lack of fraps is probably because everyone is suffering some pretty insane fps lags inside ICC, especially on fights with a lot of AOE damage or on platforms outdoors (with high viewdistance it really rapes your fps). Applying fraps on top of that, unless you have a monstercomputer it's not worth doing when its such an important encounter, considering it will be almost unplayable. I consider my computer to be pretty average for gaming and I turned on fraps ONCE in ICC during one of our earlier putricide kills and my fps then was around 5-10. In earlier instances such as Ulduar and ToC, I could easily fraps and stick around 20 fps. Icecrown Citadel just has way more spelldetails, enviroment details and all that crap, and unless you want to play with minimal settings (which I think really ruins the entire experience) most people just don't give a fuck about fraps, atleast not in Ensidia. Not every guild needs a killmovie to be released 20 mins after their kill to boost their E-peens and leak all tactics possible, while risking a possible death or bad performance due to lagging like a rabbit on crack. That's why there aren't any fraps from the kill; simply because noone frapsed.
I dont know about the video but here is a SS i got from someone inside ensidia
Sorry for wrong pic, this is the real one:
Nihilum vs Vashj, anyone ?
ROGUES OP LOL
Have you ever played a rogue? The only reason we are considered OP is because well... you suck.
No other way to put it.
No other class in the game has its "OH SHIT" button completely broken.
No other class in the game WILL be killed in a single stun if they dont have a trinket.
No other class in the game dies anywhere near as fast as a rogue with its cooldowns gone.
No other class in the game requires more skill than a rogue.
No other class in the game is as fun as a rogue, Therefore the majority of rogues who are good, have played a really long time and become good players, nothing will change that.
roflOriginally Posted by Xhosas
If you want to talk about glitchy encounter kills, having 12(?)% of a bosses total life just drop and then proceed to kill the boss takes the cake.Originally Posted by Shimo
How hard is it to actually read something before posting nonsense.Originally Posted by JackBauerLOL
They never had a 2 week headstart because of hodir. Hodir was killed by 2 guilds when the timer was at 3 minutes and then he got buffed to 2 (wich was apparently impossible). After ensidia killed it i believe he was nerfed again pretty swift.
The reason they got a 2 week headstart in Algalon (wich was actually only one seeing he was bugged and they didn't really had proper attempts on him) was because they killed Mimiron 2 weeks before everyone else. Wich leads us to the so called Mimiron exploit. The comments about that are some of the most hypocrite things one can find on the internet. Other guilds released movies where you could actually see addons for their jol-stacking and nobody ever brings that up, it's like ensidia are the only guild who exploied it, and apparently unlike some others, there's no prrof about it. i believe they even released some logs from their paladins at a point.
It's pretty much thesame with c'thun, vashj and i dont know what other bosses are being brought up again. Some people feel the need to post something they can't back up and people just accept it for truth and join in.
I see topics full of people jumping on the bash-ensidia-wagon without them apparently ever have taken the time to open their internet browser and do some reading.
Did they exploit stuff deliberatly. maybe so, i don't know, neither do any of you people bashing them. I guess the only people that can know are they themselves and blizzard. I have not a clue what all this blind hatred is about. it's a video game. if it bothers you this much, maybe you should go do something else with your time.
If they deliberatly have exploted Arthas then, fair ban. If not, not a fair ban. That's how simple it is. Only thing is nobody knows wich one it is.
Where i come from people are innocent untill proven guilty, not the other way around, and that's only fair. The entire justice system is based around that.
Anyhow, congrats on the second raid kill. It's atleast nice for the Hm race they don't start a week behind. I do really hope that wont go down like this has tho. Biggest e-drama ever
Guess the ban was more like a muscle flex of blizz. They have to set a statement or else others might try the "oh look, blizz, we found a bug during our fight. so its not our fault" that they cant get away thatway.Originally Posted by ohdearz
Originally Posted by GrimmerOriginally Posted by sofield