Paragon World First Lich King, PvP Healing, Blue posts

[Deleted]

Gz to them, and Gz on showing the horde are the best ;D

[Alterno]

Why do you post it as a World First since Ensidia already killed him? Duh. This whole matter is as dumb as people caring about being first.

Because Ensidia cheated the mechanics of the fight, Kungen admit that they knew was going on but it clearly seems that they didn't report the bug, due that they got banned.

Congratulations Paragon.

[Demoncrash]

Gratz Paragon on the REAL world 1st kill unlike Failsidia

[Shue]

If it happens, my highest hopes are in Paragon.

Seems someone predirected who will get first legit kill.

Anyways big gratz Paragon on kill and keep doing great job next week on HM's too.

- Fellow from Finland

[Palatrino]

IHANAA LEIJONAT IHANAA! Gz

[Deleted]

Suomi finland perkele ;D Gz paragon!

[arbuzno]

gratz paragon on world 2nd! Keep it going and maybe get world first in heroic modes??

[Contri]

Because Ensidia cheated the mechanics of the fight, Kungen admit that they knew was going on but it clearly seems that they didn't report the bug, due that they got banned.

Congratulations Paragon.

No he didnt ADMIT they knew what was causing the bug, only that their rogue where using same rotations as in all boss fights before...

Moron.

[Trade Chat Troll]

People saying world second -- think about it, Ensidia killed the Lich King on something easier than normal mode. For all the whining and teeth-gnashing about LOLCASUALS and RIP HARDCORE RAIDING, some people sure are going out of their way to credit their champion guild with a kill that was somehow easier than 'easymode'.

People saying world first (including Boub) -- is there a reason this gets 'world first' billing when Blood Legion 10m did not? Yes the patch landed on US a day earlier, but EU guilds had the benefit of watching the streams and picking up bits and pieces of strategy from those who were doing it cold the day before. So why not call a spade a spade, and use the term 'World First' when somebody kills something, you know, for the first time worldwide? Otherwise, it's only fair to post another news article with the same fanfare for US, EU, TW, and even KR-first kills.

[Teje]

Gratz for the World First!

Ensidia used a bug so they didn't get #1, go and post on ensidias site you darn fanboys. Fraps of their kill and I might think otherwise.

[keRmis]

What I dont understand is what it seems like, these 12 - 15 year old Paragon fanboys who seem too hate Ensidia for some reason ? Why is it such hate ? Did they laugh at your application you sent in ?

People seem too love hating top players, same in every sport/game, but lets see the fact :

Paragons wf anub hc - They EXPLOITED the game, they KNEW what they where doing by soulstoning the raid with low level alts being logged out, outside ToC, Ensidia however used something that is in alot of peoples normal rotations, has been a used item in pve and pvp since vanilla, BOMBS and they get banned for using something that is in the game that increases their dps ?

And what about holy wrath bug ? Why didnt they get banned for that?

And then Exodus who also EXPLOITED with knowledge, where actually suspended for 72 hours, however Ensidia still didnt know what was causing the bug, why would they stop using items in the raid ? It could've been like that dagger from Onyxia which removed millions of HP on bosses.



No, lay down your pathethic "Ensidia got what they deserved" and look on fact instead.

IF this kill is legit, great job Paragon, but you know it's not world first , and if you are gonna say "Blablabla they got suspended and their achies removed" well, good for you, and then it's perhaps time too grow some balls.

Actually, if you would read the statements from either side, you might know something. Saronite bombs in this fight were a very, very big benefit. I think Ensidia might have got it without the bombs and the 72h seems kinda bad. But still it's not world first. Just suck it. Gotta love Ensidia fanbois. Grats Paragon.

[arbuzno]

Actually, if you would read the statements from either side, you might know something. Saronite bombs in this fight were a very, very big benefit. I think Ensidia might have got it without the bombs and the 72h seems kinda bad. But still it's not world first. Just suck it. Gotta love Ensidia fanbois. Grats Paragon.

Stop trolling it, Paragon fanboi. Ensidia got world first, now suck it up. Its not their fault they didnt have bug-free encounter. Do you even realize how many bugs are abused on daily basis by joes like you? Probably not, otherwise you wouldnt come with this BS.

Even a freaking shatter combo from a frost mage is nothing but a bug that turned into spec defining ability in the end.

Or getting a 4th crit from combustion.

Or skipping adds in azol nerub before 2nd boss by vanishing after aggro, making them despawn (something people with brains do on daily basis, at least me).

These bugs have never been fixed, and will never be. So in the end, it doesnt matter what bugs help ensidia, and they had no clue whatsoever what was causing them.

[Saturnman]

"Fun fact: they killed him on the first try. "

More like a disapointing fact...

Expected him to be really tough.Even on normal difficulty

[mulinexman]

People saying world second -- think about it, Ensidia killed the Lich King on something easier than normal mode.

No sane person will say that Ensidias kill was the legit world 1st - it's just that it would have been if Blizzard wouldn't have fucked up and fixed the problem or instead of banning them reset Arthas. In the end it all comes down that there is no guild which can claim that world 1st without some kind of bad aftertaste and there is only one to blame for that: Blizzard.

[Vaijin]

People saying world second -- think about it, Ensidia killed the Lich King on something easier than normal mode. For all the whining and teeth-gnashing about LOLCASUALS and RIP HARDCORE RAIDING, some people sure are going out of their way to credit their champion guild with a kill that was somehow easier than 'easymode'.

This.

If Kungen and crew had put the right spin on the news, saying they really didn't care about normal and were focused on Heroic (Algalon vs. Yogg-0 anyone?) they could've come out smelling like roses.

"Yeah, so we knew something was up and we pressed on anyways. We really shouldn't have, and we're sorry for being as morally bereft as every other Topguild. We like to win. Period. We realize it was a mistake and the risk wasn't worth it, but honestly, our main concern is the most difficult content in this game, and I will guarantee you one thing.

Hard Mode? It's OURS."

Instead of all the whining, we could (in theory) focus on the race. Imagine that.

[gringo]

"Fun fact: they killed him on the first try. "

More like a disapointing fact...

Expected him to be really tough.Even on normal difficulty

Probably spent 10+ tries on him with an alt raid. so it's not that impressive given the fact that they were 1 day (?) behind ensidia. Still gz on the kill.

...not that I actually care, but ppl should think before starting the "OMG CAUSAL FAIL EXPANSION!" QQ.

[mulinexman]

This.

If Kungen and crew had put the right spin on the news, saying they really didn't care about normal and were focused on Heroic (Algalon vs. Yogg-0 anyone?) they could've come out smelling like roses.

"Yeah, so we knew something was up and we pressed on anyways. We really shouldn't have, and we're sorry for being as morally bereft as every other Topguild. We like to win. Period. We realize it was a mistake and the risk wasn't worth it, but honestly, our main concern is the most difficult content in this game, and I will guarantee you one thing.

Hard Mode? It's OURS."

Instead of all the whining, we could (in theory) focus on the race. Imagine that.

Ahm no, unless you think this news wouldn't have gotten them banned - now they're set back regarding hard modes, so either they don't care much about them (what's very hard to believe) or it really happened like they said and they had no idea.

[Vaijin]

Ahm no, unless you think this news wouldn't have gotten them banned - now they're set back regarding hard modes, so either they don't care much about them (what's very hard to believe) or it really happened like they said and they had no idea.

I meant after they had been banned, they should have come clean with a similar statement. The last bit is just because I really really want to see some of these guys put it all on the line. You think a guaranteed WF by Ensidia wouldn't up the ante a bit? And if they delivered... Just think of the fanboy frenzy that would ensue.

And yeah, I realize they're behind, but Yogg-0 didn't go down until months after normal dropped; I REALLY hope one week isn't the difference on Arthas.

[Litemode]

Congratualations on your World First Paragon.

Looking forward to seeing your video.

[un_known]

Probably spent 10+ tries on him with an alt raid. so it's not that impressive given the fact that they were 1 day (?) behind ensidia. Still gz on the kill.

...not that I actually care, but ppl should think before starting the "OMG CAUSAL FAIL EXPANSION!" QQ.

that's correct (quoted from the ensidia site):

Well, many of you saw the information on MMO-Champion:

Paragon killed the Lich King a couple of minutes ago and we will assume that this kill is bug-free and will make everyone happy. Fun fact: they killed him on the first try. Congratulations to them.


Sounds awesome right? But when you check the paragon-webpage:

We started with our alt raid first to scout the tactics, as he proved to be fairly challenging for a normal mode encounter. After we had the tactics pinned down, we logged our main characters, and went on to one-shot the boss in that raid.


Sorry but now I know what a firsttry is, kkthxbyebye!

//noXm