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  1. #1101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alzu View Post
    -Get a belt and an off-hand transmog, they don't suit that set at all (which is actually a very nice set!)
    -I'd go with +50 mastery on boots as you can cast while moving and you have tons of tools to help you get from A to B easily (even engineering!)
    -Get Balance tier gloves as they give haste/mastery instead of spirit/mastery, especially as you don't seem to like spirit at all.
    -Your reforging could be a little better. I'm just assuming that you prefer crit over spirit so wowreforge gave me slightly better reforging for you. (http://wowreforge.com/?template=for:...ery:100,Spi:32 try that!)
    -Replace Seal of the Seven Signs, it's an awful trinket. Replace it with either Jaws of Defeat or Heart of Unliving in my opinion.
    - I've been looking for a belt but having trouble finding a matching one. I didn't know if it matched or not since I'm color blind, but I don't even like the bulge of the belt.
    - I just prefer the +35 Master and Minor Movement Speed enchant since I don't have to bother about not making it in time. It's true that I have both engineering and that I'm a druid, but I can't let RNG decide if I live or die and cat form on global CD, so even that is reliable sometimes.
    - It's not that I don't like spirit, I just prefer other stats if I can reforge away spirit. The reason as to why I have a full restoration set is because I would otherwise be overcapped with haste. The balance gloves do give +10 Intellect, but the resto gloves give more mastery plus I don't have an excess of haste (which I would have with the balance gloves).
    - I'll look into the reforging if I can get some better stats. To tell you the truth, I haven't even bothered with it much and did it without any addon or calculations. I just went through piece by piece until I was near the haste cap and then went after the stat priority. Thanks, I'll definitely try that.
    - Yeah, the proc is absolutely awful; however, the intellect is not. I don't have any mana issues right now, so both Jaws of Defeat and Heart of Unliving is overkill.

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    Anyway, to rate the one above me.

    - You have a few pieces which you can reforge away spirit into mastery/crit. No need to have that amount of spirit with your gear.
    - Gem your stuff with +50 Intellect to get a small intellect gain. I understand if you don't feel it's necessary with normal gear, but still.
    - Spec into 3/3 Genesis instead of 3/3 Moonglow.
    - Try to get your hands on Seal of the Seven Signs. The proc is shit but the intellect gain is worth it.
    - Worgens make me cringe! ;__;

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    Last edited by Eleventh; 2012-08-13 at 06:09 AM.

  2. #1102
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    you should get balance gloves :-)

    SosS are overrated get another trinket if possible Take the Spine Trinket you would probably win in throughtput by upgrading to more Regrowth and MOAR SPAMSPAM then using that haste proc trinket... If you wana keep it i would suggest to step up to http://theincbear.com/math/resto-haste-breakpoints 11th tick of WG what would be 5493-3278=2215 haste... If you change to spirit proc trinket and happends to have to much regen you can always lose Moonglow for a throughtput talent

    Fishing Pole... nonono xD

    9.5/10... 10 if you had the BiS gloves :P

    My armory is on the signature... And bare with me and my ring drops
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  3. #1103
    Hi everybody,

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...bbycake/simple

    I'd like to breath some life back into this thread, Im having trouble making my dps count in certain fights. So i'd like one of you who has some exp playing balance to see if there is anything obviously wrong with my stat prio.

    My rotation from start is 75 Solar energy, pre pot, starsurge, Incarnation + NV + Beserking, Starfall, dots, wrath to 0 energy then celestial alignment. Rinse and repeat.

    Also can i have an idea as to what to do on Quick aoe? is it just hurricane? I dont see great results that way.

    Anyway, thanks in advance for your help.

    Etapic - Your character looks golden, I dont know much about ferals, the only thing is the str enchant on your hands... probably something I dont know about so I will leave you with a happy 9/10 :P

  4. #1104
    Quote Originally Posted by sexfacejonny View Post
    Hi everybody,

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...bbycake/simple

    I'd like to breath some life back into this thread, Im having trouble making my dps count in certain fights. So i'd like one of you who has some exp playing balance to see if there is anything obviously wrong with my stat prio.

    My rotation from start is 75 Solar energy, pre pot, starsurge, Incarnation + NV + Beserking, Starfall, dots, wrath to 0 energy then celestial alignment. Rinse and repeat.

    Also can i have an idea as to what to do on Quick aoe? is it just hurricane? I dont see great results that way.

    Anyway, thanks in advance for your help.

    Etapic - Your character looks golden, I dont know much about ferals, the only thing is the str enchant on your hands... probably something I dont know about so I will leave you with a happy 9/10 :P
    You are a bit over the Hit cap, you might wanna use Reforgelite or wowreforge.com to fix it. You are correctly at 2p haste breakpoint. You can also replace the haste gems in wowreforge.com with crit+spirit/hit ones and test if you can gain crit or if it's lost anw in reforging to breakpoint. Free vs testing ingame :P

    I thought by 75 Solar energy you meant 1 cast before Lunar, but by saying "wrath 0" it suggests that you start 1 cast from Solar? That is not the optimum way to start a fight.

    AC to -1 cast from LUNAR
    Prepot
    Starfall
    Wrath (NOT Starsurge)
    -Lunar Eclipse-
    Incarnation+NV
    Starsurge
    Spam Starfire, SS and Starfall when first drops
    Spam Starfire, SS
    CA at 0 energy
    Moonfire
    SSpam Starfire, SS and Starfall when second drops
    Normal eclipse cycles

    For fast aoe, Hurricane buffed with NG is awesome

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    thanks for this!

    yeah I usually started one cast from solar, ok so I'll switch that around, so i get 3 starfalls in a row nice. I'll give it a try, and also look at stat help. Many thanks!

    Do i forget about mastery? and go for max crit after hit cap and haste breakpoint?

    http://wowreforge.com/Profiles/53547...1,Mastery:1.65

    So something like this??
    Last edited by sexfacejonny; 2013-02-19 at 12:12 PM.

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    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...stria/advanced

    I had been resto, but am now raiding as moonkin. Any opinions on my gear/gemming would be appreciated.

    I have been using the rotation Juvencus posted up top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexfacejonny View Post
    thanks for this!

    yeah I usually started one cast from solar, ok so I'll switch that around, so i get 3 starfalls in a row nice. I'll give it a try, and also look at stat help. Many thanks!

    Do i forget about mastery? and go for max crit after hit cap and haste breakpoint?

    http://wowreforge.com/Profiles/53547...1,Mastery:1.65

    So something like this??
    Edit : Nvm. Something was off with your enchants and I got different results.

    Basically you want the default Hit settings it gives (at least 5100) then because you have 2p you add a Haste cap of 5273 and then in the next boss make it 1.8 after cap so it's worth lower than crit but higher than mastery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synbaby View Post
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...stria/advanced

    I had been resto, but am now raiding as moonkin. Any opinions on my gear/gemming would be appreciated.

    I have been using the rotation Juvencus posted up top.
    Youre not gemming correctly dude, whenever you can put 320 crit gem and whenever you cant put int/crit or hit/crit.
    Forge rest to haste cap and crit. 4set would help you to raise your crit a lot (you probably was not lucky enough to obtain it)

    so its 6/10 to give you room to improve

    my armory here
    (not sure which spec I will be logged off - I am actively playing resto, balance and guardian, but if you will see me in guardian gear, dont take it serious - meant for soloing and fun. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ysoph View Post
    Youre not gemming correctly dude, whenever you can put 320 crit gem and whenever you cant put int/crit or hit/crit.
    Forge rest to haste cap and crit. 4set would help you to raise your crit a lot (you probably was not lucky enough to obtain it)

    so its 6/10 to give you room to improve

    my armory here
    (not sure which spec I will be logged off - I am actively playing resto, balance and guardian, but if you will see me in guardian gear, dont take it serious - meant for soloing and fun. )
    Thank you for the help, I was confused about the gemming
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    ^^ not a transmog thread, so nothing to rate

    Here is mine:

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...l/Natic/simple

    (maybe gemming is little bit weird, but i like that Int gem in my MH just for the look :-) )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natic View Post
    ^^ not a transmog thread, so nothing to rate

    Here is mine:

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...l/Natic/simple

    (maybe gemming is little bit weird, but i like that Int gem in my MH just for the look :-) )

    EAT ME
    Hey Natic, nice to see you here :-D

    Giving you 9/10, that 1 minus is because you have transferred !

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    Your blue bracers hurt my eyes, Ysoph, though luck with loot I guess (I lost my boots and bracers to a rogue x_x, haven't seen those since). But nvm.

    I do have a question (maybe the gemming for HC raids is bit different), but why didn't you get crit+expertise gem for red socket?

    I wold say 9.5/10 as you left me wondering over the gemming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnillon View Post
    Your blue bracers hurt my eyes, Ysoph, though luck with loot I guess (I lost my boots and bracers to a rogue x_x, haven't seen those since). But nvm.

    I do have a question (maybe the gemming for HC raids is bit different), but why didn't you get crit+expertise gem for red socket?

    I wold say 9.5/10 as you left me wondering over the gemming

    Me - http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...C3%AD/advanced
    Guardian is my 2nd offspec, main gear is Resto/Balance, unfortunately I am logged off in guardian. I have bear just for soloing, sometimes running dungeons and lfr when I am bored.. So what I have on is just a rubbish which nobody wanted, dont take that setup seriously please But anyway, crit/exp might be good idea, I am making myself a note and will have a look once I will log in, thanks for tip.

    I really like your transmog (but I am also wondering if 320 crit would not be better choice for weapon gem ?) - you have my 10/10

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    but I am also wondering if 320 crit would not be better choice for weapon gem ?
    It would, but since I share the staff with my feral set, then I sadly have to use the agility gem in it (I do have 2 extra Sha touched wep x_x, but I just don't have the gold to buy the socket and new gem).
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    just buy agi and crit gems and regem whenever needed :-) those gems are pretty cheap nowadays. as I am actively using 3 specs you wouldnt believe how much respecs, regems and reforges I am doing weekly :-) Sometimes 5+ times during a raid

  17. #1117
    Ysoph, nothing wrong with your setup.

    I guess some unlucky drops in TOEs have left you without the trinket but other than that 9/10

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...bbycake/simple

    Made some changes, want to know if I am currently optimally gemmed and reforged, can a pro let me know??? I know im slightly over haste cap and hit cap, but this is the closest I can get. Would love to see if anyone else can see a better way.

    My primary focus at the moment is getting the 4 set so I can drop the haste! but until then I am stuck with it.
    Last edited by sexfacejonny; 2013-02-28 at 10:10 AM.

  18. #1118
    Quote Originally Posted by sexfacejonny View Post
    1) You should use the +320 Intellect Red gems in your gloves and legs as 640 int > 960 crit while matching the sockets as you have done
    2) Enchant your boots with +275 haste (Enchant boots - greater haste) as the additional haste is more worthwhile than the mastery at this point and you don't need the 8% run speed as you have talented feline swiftness which gives a passive 15% sped boost anyway. This may also allow additional reforging options for better stat optimisation
    3) I recommend taking nature's swiftness over renewal for the shorter 1 min CD and the fact it can be used for i) instant combat ress ii) instant healing touch (+50% extra healing) which can save you or a raid members life as I have done countless times this patch
    4) [Minor Point] I also recommend switching glyph of innervate with glyph of rebirth so your combat ress brings someone back to life with 100% HP (saves healers mana and those moments where people ress into bad stuff) and as moonkins we do not need the mana in most cases as reaching a new eclipse restores a lot of mana which we can easily reach via our rotation or astral communion where needed

    Some minor points here and there, nothing game breaking but still significant nonetheless. Overall, 9/10 and a very solid moonkin

  19. #1119
    Thank you, very useful! I will make the changes and see how I fair.

    Thanks again

    Can i ask why you have 6K haste? i thought once you get the 4 set the haste breakpoint goes down to 3K - ish??
    Last edited by sexfacejonny; 2013-02-28 at 11:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexfacejonny View Post
    Thank you, very useful! I will make the changes and see how I fair.

    Thanks again

    Can i ask why you have 6K haste? i thought once you get the 4 set the haste breakpoint goes down to 3K - ish??
    The breakpoint once we obtain our 4p is indeed 3706 haste. However, haste is still a more preferable stat. in 5.1 compared to mastery so it is better to reforge away the mastery into haste, remember it still reduces the cast time of our spells which is beneficial.

    Stat Priority: Intellect > Hit | Spirit (until 5101 cap) > haste ( up to breakpoint) > crit > haste (after breakpoint) > mastery

    Reference: http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t130885-...#Stat_Priority

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