People Forget that we did Naxx with 200 gear, Ulduar with 213 and ToC with 226/232 when they came out. And competent people downed those bosses and got gear.
oh, but that often times required wiping... and we can't have that anymore.Originally Posted by Artonas
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Ardoric <Undergeared> Raiding in blues 'cause gear is overrated (8/12 ICC 10 | 3/4 RS 10)
Originally Posted by ardoRic
To be fair, gear does not reflect the skill of a player, how do we know someone with 7k gear score in full ICC 25 man heroic drops didn't buy their account of ebay yesterday? Bit of an exageration there but I have seen newly dinged 80's outdps full tier 9 80's. Well now let's check their actual gear not the score. oh what's what? Wrong gems? Wrong enchant? Hell, I've seen enough people running around with no gems at all in 4/5 or 5/5 tier nine. The creators of gear score opened pandoras box and personaly I'm hoping the next patch breaks it for good.
I find that if you have skill you will have high gearscore but when around 5k-5.5k GS its hard to judge skill. If you have say 6k GS you will probably be really good unless you are carried by your guild and roll 99 on every roll or something.
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Hell, that was doable and progressable in Blues and Greens. Leading guilds with the world-firsts did Naxx25 in T6. Northrend Blues and Greens aren't a long way off from T6.Originally Posted by Artonas
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Originally Posted by xGLxAnubis
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My hunter has 5.1k GS and I always do my utmost. No matter where I am.
The only reason why I downloaded that piece of shit addon in the first place is because these days people want to have your achievement AND your gearscore before inviting you into their raid...
What is worth fighting for?
yeah its not the addon but the ppl who use it...hm where did I hear such bs before!
oh yeah its not guns that kill people but people using the guns..
crappy excuse..just get rid of that stupid addon
GS and req. GS for a game like WoW is just plain stupid. Pointless debate back or forth about it is just plain stupid. Any topic with the word "GS" "Gearscore" in it should be auto filtered or deleted. Same reasoning for pros and cons over and over, waste of time and space. (yeah yeah I know I wasted my time posting this as well)
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TBH that way you might as well say:Originally Posted by skodnar
"Addicts aren't to blame, they'd never get addicted if the [drugs/game/etc] didn't exist, it's all the product's fault."
Now I don't condone using GS because with a vast majority of the users being easily influenced people who don't look beyond the itemlevel of the gear and find that sufficient, as well as keeping very stupid limits because they heard it's a high score (and often not having that score themselves though). However, not all users are like that and most important, it's not the tool's fault.
I personally use ElitistGroup for the very reason GearScore was intended to be used by the creator, because I find it to be more extensive. Yes, it actually is the shooter who's to blame and not the one who manifactured the gun. Like it or not, if someone created something with good intent it's not his fault people use it the wrong way.
Like many addons which attempt to rate people by their gear, it is indeed down to the the players.
But the point is instead of simply providing a number which is not a helpful measure then it should be something different instead.
A rating of their experience in prior content should be taken into consideration, and even looking at the source of gear instead of just it's item level.
Though those defeat the very purpose for which the addon tends to be used - to be a quick and lazy gearcheck to avoid the need for a raid leader to actually use their brains and think.
The addon can judge someones raid experience, but I somehow doubt they go that far when they make that decision in two seconds to invite you or not.
They hover over you, see your score and decide from that alone and that is problem.