[Holy Paladin] advice

[Aedh]

I've read most everything I can here on MMO-C.
Which ironically brings me to my problem.

I know how valuable haste and mp5 are compared to crit ect ect.
I know that haste/mp5 gear is preferred to haste/crit gear.
I know for sure that this should be obvious, but....
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47687
or
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50214

The only thing going for the Helm of Spirit Shock is that is has 18 more haste.
I am strongly leaning towards the Headguard of Inner Warmth simply because it has 313.5 more mana and has mp5 instead of crit.

As you can see from my armory, link in sig, I just bought a large number of healing pieces. I got bored tanking, and I get bored playing ret in heroics.
I have a large number of emblems still so any other upgrades I should get with them I can. There is also a huge stack of uncut King's Amber in my bank, my fiancee apparently decided she didn't want to gem straight int on her holy, along with other uncut epics and earthsiege diamonds, it's good to be a transmutation specialist.

[Luchiano]

Well ur comparing 2 difrent ilvl's so 1st is better from most if not all points of view , and second im avoiding haste as much as i can on my holy pala , since ur main tool is flash of light u shouldnt be having trouble get it close to 1.2 even if ignoring haste.


PS: Maybe have a look at t9 set , im using 4/5 and crafted chest stacked int , and doin great.

[Bananengurke]

are you sure that this is even a decision?
the first one has 19 more int, and also has more spellpower.
the first one also has haste/mp5 vs the second one having haste/crit

first one wins in all cases plus its ilvl245 and 232. how do you even think about comparing those two? there is no way that 18 haste can make one item better if it's missing that much of the other stats.

haste is good, but that doesn't mean that the item that has more haste wins. you have to look at an item as a whole to determine the better one. not just a single stat. That's like comparing http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45843 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50199, and only tunnelvisioning the haste rating on the first, which the other one doesnt have

[Atho]

Well ur comparing 2 difrent ilvl's so 1st is better from most if not all points of view , and second im avoiding haste as much as i can on my holy pala , since ur main tool is flash of light u shouldnt be having trouble get it close to 1.2 even if ignoring haste.


PS: Maybe have a look at t9 set , im using 4/5 and crafted chest stacked int , and doin great.

I would never want to play with you in my life. You're probably one of the worst holy paladins I have ever heard if that's the way you play. Thanks for making my life, now excuse me while I go rofl some more.

[Xentin]

and second im avoiding haste as much as i can on my holy pala , since ur main tool is flash of light u shouldnt be having trouble get it close to 1.2 even if ignoring haste

I want to say this is a troll, but your 22 post count makes me think you might be just bad. I'M CONFUSED.

[Bananengurke]

I would never want to play with you in my life. You're probably one of the worst holy paladins I have ever heard if that's the way you play. Thanks for making my life, now excuse me while I go rofl some more.

he is probably the reason why his guild wipes on fights like festergut, where all eyes are on the tank healers, aka the holy paladins. and he's busting out his flash of light, 6k crits every 1.2 seconds! after 10 mins of spamming he will be at 75% mana, using his first plea

[Aedh]

haste is good, but that doesn't mean that the item that has more haste wins. you have to look at an item as a whole to determine the better one. not just a single stat.

Well I would have hoped it was obvious that I was unclear of the relative strength of haste vs int and mp5, and I did state that I was favoring the 245 helm.

[OnlineSamantha]

he is probably the reason why his guild wipes on fights like festergut, where all eyes are on the tank healers, aka the holy paladins. and he's busting out his flash of light, 6k crits every 1.2 seconds! after 10 mins of spamming he will be at 75% mana, using his first plea

Wauw, stop flaming already? Geez guys, if you don't like his opinion then don't read it.

OT: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47687 is better. Higher Item Level, higher Spell Power and higher Intellect.

[Firecrest]

Wauw, stop flaming already? Geez guys, if you don't like his opinion then don't read it.

That makes sense. Hang on a second while I go back and un-read his stupidity.

[Sushimaster]

That makes sense. Hang on a second while I go back and un-read his stupidity.

LMAO HAHAHAHA!!!!

[Deleted]

Well ur comparing 2 difrent ilvl's so 1st is better from most if not all points of view , and second im avoiding haste as much as i can on my holy pala , since ur main tool is flash of light u shouldnt be having trouble get it close to 1.2 even if ignoring haste.


PS: Maybe have a look at t9 set , im using 4/5 and crafted chest stacked int , and doin great.

Jesus Christ, I feel sorry for your guild, if you are in one.

OT: first head by over 9000 miles.

[Kaydios]

Well ur comparing 2 difrent ilvl's so 1st is better from most if not all points of view , and second im avoiding haste as much as i can on my holy pala , since ur main tool is flash of light u shouldnt be having trouble get it close to 1.2 even if ignoring haste.


PS: Maybe have a look at t9 set , im using 4/5 and crafted chest stacked int , and doin great.

I can't believe i just heard that...My eardrums are bleeding :/

[Aedh]

I can't believe i just heard that...My eardrums are bleeding :/

So you are blind and have software that read you text from the internet?

[Luchiano]

So all the morons that talks shit about my statement STACK haste , do u gem for it? i dint said its BAD , i said u SHOULDNT AIM for it , and just CUZ ur all pro and shit means you are using HOLY LIGHT on every bit of damage taken?

I do USE holy lights on tanks when needed , but that doesent mean i should stack haste for it , stop beign retard and reply with something usefull , even some exemples and show me im wrong , forum nerds that talks crap and when ur inspecting em theyr using low gems and no chants.

[Firecrest]

So all the morons that talks shit about my statement STACK haste , do u gem for it? i dint said its BAD , i said u SHOULDNT AIM for it , and just CUZ ur all pro and shit means you are using HOLY LIGHT on every bit of damage taken?

I do USE holy lights on tanks when needed , but that doesent mean i should stack haste for it , stop beign retard and reply with something usefull , even some exemples and show me im wrong , forum nerds that talks crap and when ur inspecting em theyr using low gems and no chants.

Well, here's the thing. What you said is so retarded that it would take a good deal of effort to put into words just how wrong it is. Not only that, but the examples and proof you're asking for is already littered across these very forums. If you had put even the most halfhearted of attempts into learning how to properly play your chosen class, you would already realize the absurdity of what you've posted.

You said that you're avoiding Haste, your main heal is FoL, it casts at 1.2 seconds and that you're using 4pt10. So how about this. Instead of assuming that you're right and everyone else who posted in this thread is wrong, you go ahead and find me just one person who agrees with your statement. The internet is a big place. If your way is correct, you should be able to at least find one person who agrees with you, yes?

It's cool. I'll wait.

[MortenO]

Well, here's the thing. What you said is so retarded that it would take a good deal of effort to put into words just how wrong it is. Not only that, but the examples and proof you're asking for is already littered across these very forums. If you had put even the most halfhearted of attempts into learning how to properly play your chosen class, you would already realize the absurdity of what you've posted.

You said that you're avoiding Haste, your main heal is FoL, it casts at 1.2 seconds and that you're using 4pt10. So how about this. Instead of assuming that you're right and everyone else who posted in this thread is wrong, you go ahead and find me just one person who agrees with your statement. The internet is a big place. If your way is correct, you should be able to at least find one person who agrees with you, yes?

It's cool. I'll wait.

4pt9, not 4pt10!

Also, he also stated he used the crafted plate chest, which has crit&mp5 on it me thinks.. I hope he writes a Holy Paladin guide, so we can all learn how to properly play a paladin!

[Luchiano]

If u take the time to look arround , u will notice that none or majority of holy paladins doesent GEM haste , aka an OK stat but not something ppl aim for , have u ever said i need X item , for the HASTE it has?

Yes im bit more straight forward that i actually wanna AVOID haste , still i got 407 cuz thats the gear i could get so far , so everyone says im a bad player but they actually does same shit by stacking intell , and takes whatever upgrade comes even if it has or dont have some haste.

Drop the "your argument is bad in so many ways" thing will ya?

[Aedh]

I've never read anyone worth reading here write anything about gemming haste.

Maybe you should practice some reading comprehension.

[darthceltic]

i mean, just stop

u are so bad, and have such no clue about holy paladins u should be banned from posting on websites so new players don't read what u say.

nobody is gemming haste, we gem int. but in this game real players who raid rather then do heroic pugs 12hrs a day have choices on which gear to take and which not to take off bosses. and we choose. haste/mp5 then haste/crit then crit/mp5.

firecast is one of best players on this forum, look at his armory and achiemvents, and guild rank. I'm ok, but not on his lvl, our 10 man is on lich king and our 25 is on the dragon before him. And i have 36k mana and around 930 haste.

400 haste and only 1.2 fol, lol. i've seen nax geared pallies with better.

[DaGhostDS]

If u take the time to look arround , u will notice that none or majority of holy paladins doesent GEM haste , aka an OK stat but not something ppl aim for , have u ever said i need X item , for the HASTE it has?

Yes im bit more straight forward that i actually wanna AVOID haste , still i got 407 cuz thats the gear i could get so far , so everyone says im a bad player but they actually does same shit by stacking intell , and takes whatever upgrade comes even if it has or dont have some haste.

Drop the "your argument is bad in so many ways" thing will ya?

just stop, you scare me..