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    Rupture Critting

    Will we go back to using rupture in our rotations now that rupture can crit?

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Possibly, but that will be unsure till a spreadsheet is changed to account for this.

    Read PTR to the above posters.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Detheroc&n=Smacklepuff

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    I never thought I would be so saddened to see a buff to Rogues.
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    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15864857264&pageNo=4&sid=1#66

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Looks interesting. I believe Rupture will have a comeback, including the glyph and, ofc, the two points in it.

    As always, it depends on the fight, but I think it'll be better then Envenom and Evis again... though Envenom might only be beaten if you can't make full use of the Envenombuff. [Think of Sindragosa]

    Anyways, for Combat it's probably gonna be AP-gemming all the way again, crit will be more in line (Pre-Critcap) with Haste and we're gonna change back to a High-Rupture-Cycle again... I think.

    Exception might be if you have quite a lot of ArP, close to hardcapping.


    Well, that's what I somewhat expect... could be wrong, though. ^^
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    Re: Rupture Critting

    What about 4pc T8? Useless now?


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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordret
    What about 4pc T8? Useless now?
    People still use it? And it'll likely be the same as shaman T8 2pc that let flame shock crit. Unchanged and unused.
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    I know everyone else is too lazy so whenever I run voa I just tricks the highest melee dps every cooldown. And I don't even have the set boner. ???
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    Hang on, you were going to make a class that you never see the race as with one of the new races, and then decide not to because you'll actually see aforementioned new race? Make does this sense not.

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    I wish Blizzard would stop trying to make us use rupture.

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfallonearth
    People still use it? And it'll likely be the same as shaman T8 2pc that let flame shock crit. Unchanged and unused.

    I used rupture with 4p t8 and I pull 7k+ dps. And none of my gear is over 226 except one of my daggers is a relentless one and both are 1.8 ;]

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    WTB a reactive reason to rupture my target. Adding another finisher to my rotation really isn't a challenge still. >:3

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Quote Originally Posted by Annoying
    WTB a reactive reason to rupture my target. Adding another finisher to my rotation really isn't a challenge still. >:3
    better than spamming mutilate envenom mindlessly IMO

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    personally, i still don't know if it'll do enough damage to make it worth it, the envenom buff is just too good imo

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Rupture ticks every 2 seconds, I imagine with Blood Spatter and mostly ilvl251 gear with AP gems and average buffs it'll crit for at least 2.4k.

    2.4kx5 + 1.2kx4 (assuming about 50% crit raid buffed) over 18 sec = 16,800 bleed damage free of GCD's for 25 energy. 2.4k Crits are probably on the low side too assuming FULL raid buffs.

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Quote Originally Posted by Halceon
    personally, i still don't know if it'll do enough damage to make it worth it, the envenom buff is just too good imo
    This is what I was thinking, too.

    It honestly isn't that great even with Crits when you take into account the other way to use our points (Envenom).

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Quote Originally Posted by Minky
    This is what I was thinking, too.

    It honestly isn't that great even with Crits when you take into account the other way to use our points (Envenom).
    exactly, thats 85-145 energy used on something that probably won't do as much as your poison procs and evenom

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    yeah, Rupture will probably end up doing more Damage/Energy on paper, but the Envenom buff will probably cause Envenom to continue to be the only finisher.

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Have you ever thought of that this could be meant to buff Sub-rogues? :P As they specc for both rupture increasement talents, their Rupture is really worth taking into a rotation :P
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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurinax
    yeah, Rupture will probably end up doing more Damage/Energy on paper, but the Envenom buff will probably cause Envenom to continue to be the only finisher.
    It's likely they'll change spell coeffecients to bring it back into rotations. I don't think blizzard likes both specs to be completely faceroll.
    Quote Originally Posted by supazio
    I know everyone else is too lazy so whenever I run voa I just tricks the highest melee dps every cooldown. And I don't even have the set boner. ???
    Quote Originally Posted by Mondroc
    Hang on, you were going to make a class that you never see the race as with one of the new races, and then decide not to because you'll actually see aforementioned new race? Make does this sense not.

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Quote Originally Posted by Annoying
    WTB a reactive reason to rupture my target. Adding another finisher to my rotation really isn't a challenge still. >:3
    This x100000 its not like we dont have time to throw it in our rotation, but again testing will have to be done first.

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    Re: Rupture Critting

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawaam
    Have you ever thought of that this could be meant to buff Sub-rogues? :P As they specc for both rupture increasement talents, their Rupture is really worth taking into a rotation :P
    did not think about that

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