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  1. #221

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    I get AN and have a mage in the group so I think "Woot, quick instance and a mage to bug out the second boss to make it even quicker!"

    In reality: Resto druid falls off the walkway, dies and agros trash we wipe, DK(dps) is death-grip happy and taunts the spider before it clears the other spiders and doesnt have the dps to kill it without being over run, mage blinks ahead and pulls the final boss before anyone else can even get inside the room, another wipe. Resto druid dies to the pound, another wipe. 7 minute instance turns 30 minute instance.
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  2. #222

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    your worst experiences with the dungeon tool.....

    Crushridge players, i never thought an entire server deserved to be labelled with being useless but i have never found a single crushridge player that was even close to being competent.

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    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    My worst experience is that my ignore list cant handle all the idiots I want to add to it.

    There is no real worse but many equally bad experiences to pick from so not gonna start listing them.

    As long as the run goes smooth I dont care if people do crap dps or cant play their class or what gear they are wearing. Omg the instance takes 5-10 mins longer. To many e-peen idiots around.

    Give bigger ignore list damn it!

  4. #224

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    I did Heroic Occulus yesterday with a group of horribly geared toons, the bear tank was at 24k health in bear, 2 of the dps had pvp gear, and everyone's dragons had 75K hp exactly. Which means they were low of gear score to get the extra scaling of the dragons. Funny thing was we still got the achievement for clearing it so fast. It was a total kick in the nuts on my part seeing as how I was doubting the group from the beginning. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

  5. #225

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    I was on my lock, and and his GS is roughly 5400, nothing amazing, but everyone in the dungeon was 3.2k and below, the tank was at 3k, I was like "I'm scared of doing damage " and he's like "Go ahead, I might surprise you.". That group not only did better than 99% of my geared groups, they were all extremely friendly, and the pulls were very quick. What a twist, eh?

  6. #226

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by chorx
    I was on my lock, and and his GS is roughly 5400, nothing amazing, but everyone in the dungeon was 3.2k and below, the tank was at 3k, I was like "I'm scared of doing damage " and he's like "Go ahead, I might surprise you.". That group not only did better than 99% of my geared groups, they were all extremely friendly, and the pulls were very quick. What a twist, eh?
    the twist was your vw tanked the whole dungeon and you spammed lvl 1 shadow bolt

  7. #227

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by ProphetNoata
    the twist was your vw tanked the whole dungeon and you spammed lvl 1 shadow bolt
    well, I didn't go balls out with seed of corruption spam, but I maintained a good dps, and was mindful of soul shatter, everything was smooth.

  8. #228

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by chorx
    well, I didn't go balls out with seed of corruption spam, but I maintained a good dps, and was mindful of soul shatter, everything was smooth.
    j/w what class was the tank?

  9. #229

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    If you want to see how terrible some players are out there get RankWatch from curse.

    You'd be surprised how many people with 4k and 5k GS are using rank 2/5 of some moves because of duel spec.

    And I agree with above posters. Crushridge = Horrible players.

  10. #230

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Warrior, and the healer was a pally.

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    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    If your GF was doing under 2k dps then yes

    If she was doing over 2.5k at newbie level 80 then its ok

    I seen 75 hunters do 3k dps using all cooldowns, if she was doing under 2k then she must learn how to play Wow
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  12. #232

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by chorx
    Warrior, and the healer was a pally.
    something deep deep down inside me wants to call shenanigans. If the gear diff was ass huge as you say you would have to wait about 5 secs before even casting a spell/dot for him to keep aggro

  13. #233

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    My worst experiences come from people abusing vote to kick, not on myself so much but, for example; today i did the daily (UK) and we had a great group, was going really well but our ret was clearly a fresh 80 and didnt do much damage (he did 1.9k dps but he had 2.5k GS), i thought this was fine however since the other guys made up for it and he was bubbling them when they pulled, dispelling and doing all kinds of neat tricks he had obviously took the time to learn from forums or friends, you know - one of those noobs who is really trying to get some gear and l2p. One pack before the boss he says "sorry guys i really need to goto the toilet, ill be 30secs max". Tank starts votekick. Other two morons click yes. I said in chat "guys wtf he said brb" the tanks only reply and the single word he said in the whole instance was "so?", we kill the boss - he needs to epic and the bop blue (orbs are all need on my bg). Im pretty miffed at this point, i asked why he was such an ass to random strangers and one of the dps just says "he's a tank man".

    sadface?

  14. #234

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by ProphetNoata
    something deep deep down inside me wants to call shenanigans. If the gear diff was ass huge as you say you would have to wait about 5 secs before even casting a spell/dot for him to keep aggro
    well, as affliction you don't have a ton of up front threat, and on bosses, like I said, I was very mindful of soul shatter. By no means was I saying his TPS was higher than mine, but the point I am trying to convey is that, that group ended up going much quicker, then most normal geared groups, and on top of that, it was a good experiance because they were friendly.

    On a side note, I think everyone I've grouped with from illidan, has been an elitist, whiny, twat. A lot of "I could do more dps than you if I was trying" people. I don't understand the need to bring up dps in heroics, let alone be so offended that you're not on top, mention that you aren't trying.

  15. #235

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    because i iz ret paladin and like being on top in heroics. cause once i get in raid warrior/rogue/unholy dk kick my ass

  16. #236

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    This wouldn't be my worst experience, but it still qualifies since it ticked me off.

    Now, I'm not a raider, unfortunately (RL doesn't allow it), but I can hold my own. I can even say I'm a pretty decent player, even though my gear might contradict me (GS BELOW 9000?!?!?!?!?! WTF R U DOIGN !=!)!)!)9")"(=="????!?!=?!?=!). Anyway, with the LFD tool I always get queued up as a healer since very few players actually want to heal these days. Fair enough, I can handle it.

    The moment I zone into Gundrak, the group is way ahead of me, and a DPS (might've been a warlock, don't remember) starts yelling at me for not catching up. Well, since I'm running at the same pace as you guys are (I hadn't even buffed up, dammit...), you're not giving me a chance, are you?

    At the start I had to blow a few cooldowns 'cause the tank had pulled the entire first hallway, and a DPS had pulled aggro and was insta-gibbed. So I start typing out an apology for not being fast enough, and the DPS starts yelling about reviving him so they can continue. Fine, jeez. So I revive him and off they run like a boulder is chasing them.

    When I had the time to settle into their pace, the run went fast and smooth. They were guildies and knew each others' playstyles very well, and as soon as I caught up with them it got very much easier to heal.

    Now, I don't mind people who do speedruns, but at the very least have the decency to ask the other players if they want to? Some people won't be experienced enough or even up for it. I'm an experienced player and it still caught me off guard. While I tank with my paladin I usually ask if people want speedruns, and ajust accordingly.

    Oh, and another anecdote I'd like to share:

    While I was gearing my tankerdin, I tried for ToC normal. Not a big deal, and sure it was hard back then, but most people took a single look at my healthbar and ended up saying (and it wasn't even this polite, I might add) something like "Are you kidding?"

    I wasn't def-capped, and I ran around with 17k health. I figured it was plenty since I could hold threat well and I could still use defensive cooldowns. But no, the other people, mostly DPS, would ragequit about my stats. Those who stayed could testify that while it wasn't easy, it was certainly manageable.

    And now I read threads about "terribads" (which is an awfully ugly word) who aren't even fit to tank heroics if they can't boast more than 30k health unbuffed. Sure, HoR is harder than most heroics, but I can tank it fairly easily. It'd be really fun to join a group with some of you people, since I probably scratch 33k unbuffed. I'd probably get vote-kicked before I can even say "ready?" (yes, I'm one of those old-skool gamers that like to be polite and have a good time while playing a game).

    I think it's very fun to see people completely crippled if they're not carried in some way. If I have to actually work to keep people alive, hey, it's great! I might fail the first time, but that's 'cause I get complacent. I get better though. It's gonna be fun to level in Cata, when the new instances are kicking our arses since it's the first time we get there. I'll love to see people ragequitting since we can't carry more than ourselves.
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  17. #237

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by chorx
    I was on my lock, and and his GS is roughly 5400, nothing amazing, but everyone in the dungeon was 3.2k and below, the tank was at 3k, I was like "I'm scared of doing damage " and he's like "Go ahead, I might surprise you.". That group not only did better than 99% of my geared groups, they were all extremely friendly, and the pulls were very quick. What a twist, eh?
    I've had that happen. In fact, I've been the tank saying something like it. It's fun to see how people get amazed by skill once they forget about GS.
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  18. #238

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by Getatron
    I wasn't def-capped, and I ran around with 17k health
    I'm going to try and say this as gently but directly as possible so appologies in advance if I offend you.

    * Tanks at level 70 in black temple had 20k health.
    * All tanks should be defense capped or as close as they can get to it for raid content.

    I would highly recommend trying to get to at least 25-30k unbuffed health, and 540 defense skill / 689 defense rating, before tanking ToC 10-man.

    In my case I'd say "I'll get my tank, he can go dps" and keep you in the group but I can understand the dps wanting to leave if they saw a tank with those stats. They may be fine for heroics but you need to remember that while gear is very easy to get now ToC 10-man is 3-4 tiers above heroics.

    Good luck in future tanking once your gear improves.

    Doomhammer EU

  19. #239

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by TobiasX
    I'm going to try and say this as gently but directly as possible so appologies in advance if I offend you.

    * Tanks at level 70 in black temple had 20k health.
    * All tanks should be defense capped or as close as they can get to it for raid content.

    I would highly recommend trying to get to at least 25-30k unbuffed health, and 540 defense skill / 689 defense rating, before tanking ToC 10-man.

    In my case I'd say "I'll get my tank, he can go dps" and keep you in the group but I can understand the dps wanting to leave if they saw a tank with those stats. They may be fine for heroics but you need to remember that while gear is very easy to get now ToC 10-man is 3-4 tiers above heroics.

    Good luck in future tanking once your gear improves.
    My turn to apologise: I meant the 5-man dungeon, and not the raid. I'd never set foot in a raid if I wasn't def-capped. Trust me, I've been playing since the first beta, so I know I can't stand before something in a raid without the proper def. Heroics could work, but not a raid.

    Again, I'm sorry I wasn't clear. :P
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  20. #240

    Re: Your worst experiences with the Dungeon Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by Getatron
    My turn to apologise: I meant the 5-man dungeon, and not the raid. I'd never set foot in a raid if I wasn't def-capped. Trust me, I've been playing since the first beta, so I know I can't stand before something in a raid without the proper def. Heroics could work, but not a raid.

    Again, I'm sorry I wasn't clear. :P
    Aha! Makes much better sense now. Complaining about a 5-man tank having below 20k health is kind of understandable but I'd probably just help out with CC more if you seemed to need it (or the healer was having trouble).

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