Good Sign: Combustion CD reduction to 2 mins Hurray!!

[dune180]

This is a good start for fire mages after seeing so much hit and crit gears in ICC. I hope blizz continue to surprise us . But still they should increase the damage coefficient of Pyroblast its so under powered.

[Skarrd]

reducing the CD on a bad talent wont make it good

A one minute CD might, or just giving it more charges / bigger multiplier.

[DirewolfX]

This will make Fire win the internet!

Seriously, they are improving Pyro's coefficient in Empowered Fire. Not in patch notes, but blue posted. Check one of the other threads for a link. Some numbers done in simcraft put Fire about 400-500 DPS behind Arcane on stand and nuke and about 500 ahead on very mobile fights.

[rathofvol]

This will make Fire win the internet!

Seriously, they are improving Pyro's coefficient in Empowered Fire. Not in patch notes, but blue posted. Check one of the other threads for a link. Some numbers done in simcraft put Fire about 400-500 DPS behind Arcane on stand and nuke and about 500 ahead on very mobile fights.

The link also said it was putting pyro in TtW; did the simcraft have this modeled? If not then I think FB would be awfully close to dead even on low movement fights.

FB coming back is like a dream come true.

[kimchi]

Hope they are going to buff fire dps without lowering arcane
just to make the gap closer,

Combustion is one of those old old talents that need some rework in my opinion
even if it is lower to 2 min...let's face it, I will always be 2+[3 critical fb/pyro]
it is just weird to me....

Glyph change doesn't really seems that good atm

[DirewolfX]

@rathofvol: Yes, the simcraft was a post by Lhivera like the next page after the blue post that mentioned that.

[dune180]

Ya i agree too, not to lower arcane dps but to bring fire dps closer to it overall.

[Taalyn]

The Combustion change wasn't targeted specifically at buffing Fire DPS. Blizzard said it was to bring the cooldown in line with trinkets, as a 3 minute cooldown just felt weird when your trinkets have a 2 minute CD.

The Glyph of Fireball change wasn't aimed at improving Fire DPS either. Apparently mages were crit capping in ICC gear (all 3 of them that play the spec and either don't gear for haste or have craploads of spirit).

[emitsabah]

The Combustion change wasn't targeted specifically at buffing Fire DPS. Blizzard said it was to bring the cooldown in line with trinkets, as a 3 minute cooldown just felt weird when your trinkets have a 2 minute CD.

The Glyph of Fireball change wasn't aimed at improving Fire DPS either. Apparently mages were crit capping in ICC gear (all 3 of them that play the spec and either don't gear for haste or have craploads of spirit).

/indeed

I like the idea to have charges on conbustion (5 would be nice).
But anyway, at least the change to reduce threat confort us a bit.

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/indeed

I like the idea to have charges on conbustion (5 would be nice).
But anyway, at least the change to reduce threat confort us a bit.

This would probably be OP in PvP.

[Tenzz]

This would probably be OP in PvP.

Fire, OP in PvP? I lol'd

[Strykie]

Fire, OP in PvP? I lol'd

Fire is decent for PvP
L2 play.

[DirewolfX]

Now, now, kids... play nice.

[PvE_Mage]

the changes to fire were overdue since Ulduar

[Deleted]

Fire, OP in PvP? I lol'd

Actually a fire/frost hybrid is very viable for PvP, and with 5 100% crits in a row I would guess that their burst would be quite "OP" in 3v3 and possibly 5v5.

[Zongo]

hmm... what was that 2's video i just watched on warcraftmovies....

Destruction & Decimation?
Demolishment & Burnination?

heck idk, but it was a destro lock/fire mage in 2's. loved every minute of it :P

Anyways, cant wait to see fire changes implemented, I might actually switch back since back in ulduar. ICC isnt very stand-still-friendly

[Micke]

Fire'n'Destruction, yeah, very cool vid

[EyeOnEyes]

Fire has always been my favorite. I'm glad they're bringing it back within range of Arc DPS. As the dps difference is at this point I'd still play TtW/FB just so I don't have to see all the purple-pink colors flying outta my hands.

Aside from that though, Combustion could be better, but a 2m CD is better than 3. With FB builds having an already astronomical crit rating it's still kinda bleh. If they're changing the FB glyph because of huge crit values of FB mages how is combustion any different?