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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaay
    So I have reached a slight confusion on which would really be better. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...Korgath&n=Kaay I have DBW but i still can not reach arpen cap not matter what I gem atm or switch out. My biggest question is should I just put NES back on over DV and soft cap arpen and gem alot of agi and try to get some hit back..since i'm a little under cap atm.

    Any help/comments/thoughts would be appreciated
    Quote Originally Posted by littlepiggy
    you could reach around 91% arp if you regemed full arp gems. i'm pretty sure it would be a dps increase (since arp scales better the higher it goes) check rawr and toskk's, they will probably agree. also i'm pretty sure mongoose would be better for you
    Agreed. Move the nightmare tear to your weapon or legs, and put 20 arpen in all other sockets, for a 30-50 dps increase according to both rawr and simcraft. Switching back to scorpion + softcap would be a loss of over 200 dps; as long as you can get over 1100 or so, hardcap will be better than softcap. And with full arpen gemming/food you will have 1323.

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Ok first off my main spec is feral bear and as such my best feral gear is enchanted and socketed for tanking. I'm now at a point though where i bought all the gear i need for tanking with emblems of frost and looking into upgrading my feral dps gear. Since we lost our 3rd tank recently in our guild i rarely respec for dps at the moment, but since this may change again in the future i'd still like to keep my dps gear up to date.

    My armory: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ger&n=Nenaunir
    I just logged out in my normal dps gear and it should show up as such now. Other gear i have available to swap around is:

    Head:
    Runetotem's Headguard of Triumph (ilvl 245 version)

    Neck:
    Precious's Putrid Collar (ilvl 251 version)
    Collar of Unending Torment (ilvl 245 version)

    Chest:
    Vest of Calamitous Fate (ilvl 258 version)

    Gloves:
    Runetotem's Handgrips of Triumph (ilvl 245 version)

    Belt:
    Belt of the Pitiless Killer (ilvl 245 version)

    Legs:
    Ivory-Inlaid Leggings (ilvl 251 version)

    Boots:
    Taldaram's Soft Slippers (ilvl 251 version)
    Icewalker Treads (ilvl 245 version)

    Trinkets:
    Darkmoon Card: Greatness (Agi version)
    Grim Toll

    Weapon:
    Hellion Glaive (ilvl 258 version)

    Since we basically stopped running ToGC 25 and since it's my offspec, i mainly have access to Emblem of Frost items and some spare ICC 10/25 drops which no one else wanted.

    Our typical raid setup does include an enhancement shaman and fury warrior, but no other feral druids or arms warriors. So while generally most or all melee buffs and sunders are covered i won't have access to a mangle bot

    What i kinda want to know is what i should be looking for in the terms of upgrades? Should i be trying to get 4 set bonus for dps asap or should i focus on improving other slots. I'd prefer staying close or on expertise and hit cap, since it helps keeping my rotation.

    P.S. Don't pay any attention to my talents. My second spec is my tanking spec and my current spec is a healing spec i just tried out for fun. I normally use http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#0ZvMMsfrz0eR0huAkbAczb though with the mangle debuff change i'd drop improved mangle for maxing out feral agression and getting 2 points into Feral Instinct.

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheever
    This is my druid, feral dps is my offspec hence why i havent got tier 10 yet. I have got around 200 frost badges atm i plan to use for feral gear. but i dont know if i should save for tier 10 or get the belt (altho that will make me lose too much hit) I got the polearm from normal princes in my bags, as well as distant land, but havent come around to use/gem/enchant them yet. Nor do i know if the change would be worth it (maybe the prince polearm and badges belt?)
    And i know i got no expertise what so ever , need tier leggings for that and some other piece i dont know about yet.

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    Getting 4T10.251 would be over 800 dps increase, with a cost of 345 emblems, so you get like 2.3 dps per emblem. Getting the belt would only be a ~30 dps increase, at a cost of 60 emblems, so getting you 0.5 dps per emblem.

    T10 Legs+Shoulders would probably the best 2 items to buy atm, after which you should save up to 190 badges and then buy chest+head at the same time.

    Seeing as you cleared tribute to insanity, if you still got some T9.258 lying around, you should use the T9.258 chest&shoulders, and buy the T10 head+legs first.

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Thanks for the advice, should i still get the 2 t9 if it was 245 ilvl (as i dont have the 258 for feral)?

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheever
    Thanks for the advice, should i still get the 2 t9 if it was 245 ilvl (as i dont have the 258 for feral)?
    T9.245 chest&shoulders shows as an upgrade as well, however only by like 5 dps compared to using T10 shoulders/legs with 3 nonset pieces. So don't know if thats worth it, considering it's only an offspec for you.

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Nenaunir
    My armory: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ger&n=Nenaunir

    What i kinda want to know is what i should be looking for in the terms of upgrades? Should i be trying to get 4 set bonus for dps asap or should i focus on improving other slots. I'd prefer staying close or on expertise and hit cap, since it helps keeping my rotation.
    Switching to 4T10 would be at least a 700 dps boost, at a cost of 345 emblems (keeping the rotface gloves), so roughly 2 dps per emblem. The main other upgrade you could buy is the frost emblem belt, but that's only 1.5 dps per emblem.

    None of the T10 pieces is a upgrade by itself, but once you got enough emblems you can replace head+chest at the same time for a small boost. Then wait again till you got enough emblems and replace both the T9 shoulders/legs with T10 as well. After all that you could look to buying the belt.

    You could also swap to the blood prince boots, replace some arpen gems with agi gems, and replace some agi+crit with agi+hit, as well as switching boot enchant to icewalker, for a slight dps boost while keeping relatively close to the hit cap.

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Myeah that's pretty much what i thought. Time to go save up on a lot of emblems

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ammer&cn=Tiens

    Have a 60 frost and a bunch of triumph; current spec is pvp so don't look at that didn't have time to switch cause I have to leave now, just was wondering what y'all thought. (Don't have access to ICC 25 gear)
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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Glyph for mangle. Nuf said. (Taken from PTR)

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Nice bug, but irrelevant for this thread

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NaitFury
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ammer&cn=Tiens

    Have a 60 frost and a bunch of triumph; current spec is pvp so don't look at that didn't have time to switch cause I have to leave now, just was wondering what y'all thought. (Don't have access to ICC 25 gear)
    First of all, get rid of pyrite infuser and buy a darkmoon card: greatness (agi). Move the nightmare tear to the blue socket in your legs, fill all yellow sockets with 10agi+10haste, and all remaining red/blue sockets with 20 arpen.

    Also don't forget to use 40arpen food, it's much better than using the standard fish feast and very easy to farm north of warsong hold. This will put you fairly close to the arpen softcap for the scorpion.

    Best thing to do with your frost emblems is to get the belt. After that you should save up to get some T10 pieces.

    If you got the gold for it, you could also consider buying a hilt, the mace you get from it is pretty awesome if you don't have access to ICC25 or the later ICC10 bosses.

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir
    It's quite hard to say anything useful without seeing all your gear. But with your low crit rate, it's unlikely that it's worth it going for hit cap, and you should probably get more agi instead.
    Alright! so my thoughts were right, thanks gonna try to gem more agi then.
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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ssateneth
    Glyph for mangle. Nuf said. (Taken from PTR)
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl0PQHT34_0

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...e&cn=Evilfunky

    keep gemming arpen or switch DV for runestone and gem agi?

    this is an alt so i dont have much time to research stuff so any advice would help.

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Why do I want haste? Always was under the impression that haste wasn't that valueable.
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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...l&cn=Buckaroni

    I'm coming up on 60 frost emblems and am thinking of replacing the Banner of Victory with Herkumi War Token if Whispering Fanged Skulll doesn't drop this weekend. My question is: how do I replace my helm and boots without totally gimping my hit rating? I want to get the tier helm and will probably get frostbitten fur boots when they drop. I also have 264 Aldriana's Gloves of Secrecy in my inventory. Thanks in advance!

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NaitFury
    Why do I want haste? Always was under the impression that haste wasn't that valueable.
    More haste = more OoC procs, pretty much. + it scales really well with any other stat you have. It's not as good as agi/arpen, but it's always reasonable close behind it, close enough to not ignore it when you have a yellow socket with decent socket bonus.

    Once you get the 4T10 bonus, crit rating may jump ahead again tho...

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Btw what about expertise, I heard from a few guys it's pretty important while others ignore it completely... what's your stance on this?
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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilFunky
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...e&cn=Evilfunky

    keep gemming arpen or switch DV for runestone and gem agi?

    this is an alt so i dont have much time to research stuff so any advice would help.
    It depends on how much you value being hitcapped with regards to your rotation I guess.
    If you wanna be close to the hitcap, you should probably switch back to the runestone (pretty much the same as i'm doing atm). But if you don't mind missing a bit more, then you could gain close to 100 dps by gemming purely for arpen, at the cost of having a less stable rotation.

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    Re: Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread

    my gear. please help cause i cant get rawr to work on a mac. (know of mono and all of that). Probably gonna get 4th piece of t10 this week. should i get head or legs first? i know that i should drop gloves later, so ill probably get both. but wich one first? trinkets are crap. i probably should save for herkumi war totem before getting 5th piece of tier piece and retire my gloves?

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...asz&cn=Monstto

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