1. #1

    Enh : Lightning Shield dmg drop due?

    Hello,
    There is something I cant get my head around,
    When I swap 2 pieces on rawr my simmed Lightning Shield dmg drops by 281k while my other dmg sources go slightly up or down.

    This is my toon : http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...age&cn=Freekje
    and I swap Nobundo's Chestguard of Triumph and Crusader's Dragonscale Bracers with Hauberk of a Thousand Cuts and Scourge Hunter's Vambraces

    After gemming & enchanting the relevant stats i gain/lose are :

    -63 Haste
    -3% static shock trigger
    +28AP
    +20 Agi
    +13 Int
    +24 Crit
    +32 Hit
    +40 ArP

    Here are the logs,
    current :

    Code:
    config_version 1.9.6.6 doesn't match EnhSim program version.
    Using an old config file can cause problems.
    
    EnhSim version 1.9.7.0
    
    ................................................................................
    
    MH:
    miss        222159     7.34%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      725735     23.97%
    hit         233970     7.73%
    crit        1846210    60.97%
    average ap     8074.68    
    clip        0       0.00%
    
    MH Windfury:
    procs/hits     14.45%
    procs/swings    13.52%
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         335419     36.01%
    crit        595953     63.99%
    average ap     8074.11    
    
    MH Storsmtrike:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         150973     36.18%
    crit        266354     63.82%
    average ap     8062.50    
    
    OH:
    miss        223182     7.37%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      726468     23.99%
    hit         233194     7.70%
    crit        1845230    60.94%
    average ap     8077.48    
    clip        0       0.00%
    
    OH Flametongue:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         2031753    55.02%
    crit        1660897    44.98%
    average sp     2215.34    
    
    OH Stormstrike:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         151012     36.19%
    crit        266315     63.81%
    average ap     8077.60    
    
    Earth Shock:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         180978     55.03%
    crit        147906     44.97%
    average sp     2215.47    
    
    Flame Shock:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         96290     55.05%
    crit        78612     44.95%
    average sp     2215.26    
    dots hit      998173     100.00%
    dots crit      0       0.00%
    average dot sp   2215.44    
    
    Lava Lash:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         168943     35.91%
    crit        301488     64.09%
    average ap     8075.68    
    
    Lightning Bolt:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         323773     55.07%
    crit        264187     44.93%
    average sp     2216.54    
    
    Fire Nova:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         223931     55.00%
    crit        183185     45.00%
    average sp     2216.23    
    
    Lightning Shield:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         834530     100.00%
    crit        0       0.00%
    average sp     2217.54    
    
    Spirit Wolves:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      533674     24.04%
    hit         1432110    64.51%
    crit        254216     11.45%
    average ap     8098.50    
    
    Magma Totem:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         435904     55.03%
    crit        356218     44.97%
    average sp     2212.82    
    
    Fire Elemental Melee:
    miss        38402     8.00%
    dodge        19994     4.17%
    glancing      115137     23.99%
    hit         292020     60.84%
    crit        14447     3.01%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Shield:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         544981     91.91%
    crit        47999     8.09%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Nova:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         220872     92.03%
    crit        19128     7.97%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Blast:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         227956     92.07%
    crit        19643     7.93%
    
    Fire Elemental stats:
    average ap     8111.40    
    average sp     2222.18    
    MPS         65.57     
    MPCooldown     7867.82    
    Out of mana time  0.00%
    MRPCooldown     2820.84    
    MRPS        23.61     
    
    Fire Elemental   MRPS without overregen
    mana regen     3.31   14.10%
    judgement of wisdom 20.19   85.90%
    
    
    Maelstrom Weapon:
    PPM         56.65
    efficiency     86.49%
    
    flurry uptime         95.58%
    unleashed rage uptime     100.00%
    elemental devastation uptime  90.43%
    mh enchant uptime       53.19%
    oh enchant uptime       49.23%
    stormstrike debuff uptime   75.49%
    flame shock uptime       83.70%
    lightning shield uptime    99.05%
    magma totem uptime       41.68%
    fire elemental uptime     50.00%
    
    trinket2 uptime        20.23%
    totem uptime          99.90%
    ring proc uptime        16.57%
    
    
    Set bonus uptimes:
    Frost Witch's Battlegear 2 piece    25.00%
    
              MRPS without overregen
    mana regen     0.00   0.00%
    mp5         16.03   4.52%
    replenishment    35.16   9.91%
    unrelenting storm  0.00   0.00%
    judgement of wisdom 98.46   27.74%
    shamanistic rage  111.78  31.50%
    mana potion     0.00   0.00%
    misc        0.00   0.00%
    stormstrike     93.43   26.33%
    
              DPS         PPM    MPS
    white        3329.62  34.6%   100.94
    windfury      1188.63  12.35%  7.76
    flametongue     709.08  7.37%   61.54
    stormstrike     512.71  5.33%   6.96   39.14   10.28%
    lava lash      399.39  4.15%   7.84   22.06   5.79%
    magma totem     259.45  2.7%   1.59   30.23   7.94%
    earth shock     357.49  3.72%   5.48   69.40   18.23%
    flame shock     210.51  2.19%   2.92   34.86   9.15%
    lightning bolt   872.15  9.06%   9.80   71.80   18.86%
    fire nova      350.51  3.64%   6.79   104.99  27.58%
    lightning shield  371.40  3.86%   1.90   0.00   0.00%
    spirit wolves    453.79  4.72%   0.50   4.22   1.11%
    fire elemental   607.14  6.31%   0.25   4.04   1.06%
     melee       327.30  53.91%  8.00
     fire shield    24.34   4.01%   9.88
     fire nova     159.73  26.31%  4.00
     fire blast    95.76   15.77%  4.13
    
    DPS         9621.87
    MPS         380.73
    MP2min       45687.61
    MRPS        541.35
    Out of mana time  0.00%
    
    elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
    elapsed real time: 4.97s
    simulation speed: 724637x

    new items :

    Code:
    config_version 1.9.6.6 doesn't match EnhSim program version.
    Using an old config file can cause problems.
    
    EnhSim version 1.9.7.0
    
    ................................................................................
    
    MH:
    miss        189067     6.38%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      711715     24.00%
    hit         233412     7.87%
    crit        1830766    61.75%
    average ap     8140.77    
    clip        0       0.00%
    
    MH Windfury:
    procs/hits     14.47%
    procs/swings    13.66%
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         325593     35.28%
    crit        597219     64.72%
    average ap     8140.37    
    
    MH Storsmtrike:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         145787     35.28%
    crit        267409     64.72%
    average ap     8129.46    
    
    OH:
    miss        189490     6.39%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      710872     23.98%
    hit         232869     7.85%
    crit        1831740    61.78%
    average ap     8141.17    
    clip        0       0.00%
    
    OH Flametongue:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         1992343    54.38%
    crit        1671208    45.62%
    average sp     2229.08    
    
    OH Stormstrike:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         146088     35.36%
    crit        267108     64.64%
    average ap     8145.56    
    
    Earth Shock:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         180905     54.51%
    crit        150992     45.49%
    average sp     2229.55    
    
    Flame Shock:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         96379     54.54%
    crit        80346     45.46%
    average sp     2229.35    
    dots hit      1006026    100.00%
    dots crit      0       0.00%
    average dot sp   2229.51    
    
    Lava Lash:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         166053     34.97%
    crit        308821     65.03%
    average ap     8142.46    
    
    Lightning Bolt:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         319188     54.26%
    crit        269041     45.74%
    average sp     2230.83    
    
    Fire Nova:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         222192     54.40%
    crit        186250     45.60%
    average sp     2230.52    
    
    Lightning Shield:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         553886     100.00%
    crit        0       0.00%
    average sp     2231.68    
    
    Spirit Wolves:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      533614     24.04%
    hit         1432020    64.51%
    crit        254366     11.46%
    average ap     8167.00    
    
    Magma Totem:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         431319     54.37%
    crit        362026     45.63%
    average sp     2227.35    
    
    Fire Elemental Melee:
    miss        38187     7.96%
    dodge        20061     4.18%
    glancing      115207     24.00%
    hit         292118     60.86%
    crit        14427     3.01%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Shield:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         545653     91.99%
    crit        47544     8.01%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Nova:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         220855     92.02%
    crit        19145     7.98%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Blast:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         227819     92.06%
    crit        19659     7.94%
    
    Fire Elemental stats:
    average ap     8176.10    
    average sp     2235.92    
    MPS         65.55     
    MPCooldown     7865.60    
    Out of mana time  0.00%
    MRPCooldown     2825.79    
    MRPS        23.65     
    
    Fire Elemental   MRPS without overregen
    mana regen     3.31   14.07%
    judgement of wisdom 20.23   85.93%
    
    
    Maelstrom Weapon:
    PPM         56.18
    efficiency     87.26%
    
    flurry uptime         96.04%
    unleashed rage uptime     100.00%
    elemental devastation uptime  90.97%
    mh enchant uptime       52.85%
    oh enchant uptime       48.81%
    stormstrike debuff uptime   83.91%
    flame shock uptime       84.37%
    lightning shield uptime    99.45%
    magma totem uptime       42.03%
    fire elemental uptime     50.00%
    
    trinket2 uptime        20.20%
    totem uptime          99.93%
    ring proc uptime        16.56%
    
    
    Set bonus uptimes:
    Frost Witch's Battlegear 2 piece    25.00%
    
              MRPS without overregen
    mana regen     0.00   0.00%
    mp5         16.05   4.51%
    replenishment    35.69   10.04%
    unrelenting storm  0.00   0.00%
    judgement of wisdom 97.85   27.52%
    shamanistic rage  113.40  31.90%
    mana potion     0.00   0.00%
    misc        0.00   0.00%
    stormstrike     92.50   26.02%
    
              DPS         PPM    MPS
    white        3351.77  34.92%  98.83
    windfury      1201.51  12.52%  7.69
    flametongue     709.25  7.39%   61.06
    stormstrike     518.99  5.41%   6.89   38.75   10.14%
    lava lash      407.84  4.25%   7.91   22.27   5.82%
    magma totem     261.72  2.73%   1.61   30.62   8.01%
    earth shock     367.39  3.83%   5.53   70.03   18.32%
    flame shock     213.57  2.23%   2.95   35.22   9.21%
    lightning bolt   893.57  9.31%   9.80   71.83   18.79%
    fire nova      353.95  3.69%   6.81   105.34  27.55%
    lightning shield  251.47  2.62%   1.34   0.00   0.00%
    spirit wolves    456.04  4.75%   0.50   4.22   1.10%
    fire elemental   610.11  6.36%   0.25   4.04   1.06%
     melee       329.53  54.01%  8.00
     fire shield    24.38   4%    9.89
     fire nova     160.26  26.27%  4.00
     fire blast    95.93   15.72%  4.12
    
    DPS         9597.18
    MPS         382.32
    MP2min       45878.58
    MRPS        543.39
    Out of mana time  0.00%
    
    elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
    elapsed real time: 4.98s
    simulation speed: 722311x
    is 63haste & 2pc T9 bonus really causing a 281 000dmg+ drop in just 4 minutes ? :s

  2. #2

    Re: Enh : Lightning Shield dmg drop due?

    That's enough time to break a light bulb. Well not one of those Compact Fluorescents...

    You should get one IMO.

  3. #3

    Re: Enh : Lightning Shield dmg drop due?

    elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h

    pasted form sim lines.


    I'm pretty sure you're counting hits in that sim, not dmg either

    It's going from 800k hits, down to 500k.
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  4. #4

    Re: Enh : Lightning Shield dmg drop due?

    Current
    lightning shield DPS 371.40
    New
    lightning shield DPS 251.47

    So in other words you lost ~30% of your lightning shield damage

    Considering T9 2 piece means static shock has a 9% chance to trigger, whereas otherwise it would have a 6% chance to trigger you are getting exactly what you should expect (lose 2piece, lose 33% LS damage). You really should have read those outputs over better yourself before you posted.
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    I pity people who have gotten so insensate to disrespect and abuse from repetition that they have elevated being jaded to a virtue.

  5. #5
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    Re: Enh : Lightning Shield dmg drop due?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freekje
    Hello,
    There is something I cant get my head around,
    When I swap 2 pieces on rawr my simmed Lightning Shield dmg drops by 281k while my other dmg sources go slightly up or down.
    Please clarify you say you are having a problem with Rawr but you post ZERO Rawr information only EnhSim info. Did you mean you are having a problem with EnhSim? Also what is with the 281k damage - that is WRONG the figure you quoted is HITS and NOT damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freekje
    -3% static shock trigger
    Well DUH you dropped the set bonus, of course you are going to lose 3% static shock trigger. So lets see your Static Shock hit chance goes from 9% to 6% ie: you lose 33.33% of your old static shock hits, EnhSim reports that your hits went from 834,530 to 553,886 which is a 33.62% drop. WOW you lost your set bonus and EnhSim accurately reported (within the bounds of RNG) that the number of hits your LS did dropped by 33%, sorry where is the problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freekje
    Code:
    config_version 1.9.6.6 doesn't match EnhSim program version.
    Using an old config file can cause problems.
    
    EnhSim version 1.9.7.0
    Sorry does that error message I coded not SCREAM out at you that you have a problem or are you just ignoring the fact that your config file is out of date and broken?

    Seriously do developers have to put error messages like that in 30 foot high letters of fire (bonus points if you get the literary reference) before it sinks in? Or would a Klaxon and flashing lights be required??

  6. #6

    Re: Enh : Lightning Shield dmg drop due?

    Quote Originally Posted by Levva
    ...
    Or would a Klaxon and flashing lights be required??
    I would like to see this code implemented, but I may be in the minority.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I pity people who have gotten so insensate to disrespect and abuse from repetition that they have elevated being jaded to a virtue.

  7. #7
    Deleted

    Re: Enh : Lightning Shield dmg drop due?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fornaw
    I would like to see this code implemented, but I may be in the minority.
    Tricky for a command line executable.

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    Re: Enh : Lightning Shield dmg drop due?

    Quote Originally Posted by Levva
    30 foot high letters of fire (bonus points if you get the literary reference) before it sinks in?
    I'm thinking Douglas Adams but maybe that was a tad obvious :-\

  9. #9

    Re: Enh : Lightning Shield dmg drop due?

    Quote Originally Posted by matharu
    I'm thinking Douglas Adams but maybe that was a tad obvious :-\
    Yup, it is indeed Mr Adams. Although I guess even to the uneducated it would have been a toss up between Adams and Pratchet.


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