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    Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    refuse to buy yellow 20 haste gems for 250~g compared to the 16 haste for 35g?

    on the one hand i have what i once considered a ton of gold these days. on the other hand 220g difference for 4 more haste? practical or cheap bastard?

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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Quote Originally Posted by Spurmwhale
    refuse to buy yellow 20 haste gems for 250~g compared to the 16 haste for 35g?

    on the one hand i have what i once considered a ton of gold these days. on the other hand 220g difference for 4 more haste? practical or cheap bastard?
    Cheap Bastard

    Practical would be doing WinterGrasp/BG's for honor or Spending Excess Badges on the Gems...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generate
    Practical. whats wrong with blue gems? 4 less haste doesnt justify 200 more gold
    If there was no other way to obtain Epic Gems then i would agree but you can gain Epic Gems in 3 Major way that are all vary "Practical"
    1: Honor - You can do BG/WG/Arena's and spend that disposable currency on Gems
    2: Emblems/Badges - You can spend excess Badge/Emblems on Gems if you do the Random Heroics regulary most people have a large excess of badges already
    3: Transmutes - You can watch the AH and pick up the Mats for Transmutes at vary resonable prices and have your local friendly Alc Mute them in to Epics

    All of witch take LONGER to get gems are far more Cost effective...

    The reason Blue Gems are bad is because of the way Gear is Built by the item designers.... To create a slot on an item of Gear the developer "sacrifices" 16 of a given stat... So if you have a Chest piece with 3 Gem slots the Item Designer at some point decided to reduce the stat(s) of the item by a total of 48 to generate the 3 slots... By placing only Rare Gems your really not improving the item you are simply adding the back the equivalent of 16 stats per Gem slot even if you are placing a +X rating gem, by using a +20 stat item you are improving the Item.

    Example if you have 10 Gem slots in your gear and you gem all Rare gems (10 x 16) you will add ~160x stat to your gear, if you use Epic gems (10 x 20) you will add 200x stat yo your gear, 40x Stat can be be vary significant to your charters effectiveness in its role. The more Gem sockets the more effective using top level gems is.
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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Practical. whats wrong with blue gems? 4 less haste doesnt justify 200 more gold
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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Would you turn down a piece of gear that is identical to your current one except with 4 more haste? I wouldn't.

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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    If you have that much gold with nothing to spend it on, then you're a cheap bastard.

    That's almost as bad as the people in entry level epics who refuse to gem their gear with simple green or blue cuts.
    "I'm gonna replace it soon anyways" is never a viable excuse.
    Stop being cheap and buy the damn gems, you have the gold and you have no excuse not to buy them.
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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    pretty pathetic imo, you need to lay this down thinking its your real economy. OFC your cheap. Grats on the Attention.

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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Quote Originally Posted by Zulandia
    Would you turn down a piece of gear that is identical to your current one except with 4 more haste? I wouldn't.
    Depends how much it would cost to enchant/regem, if it was a weapon needing berserking enchant forget about it (In my opinion anyway)

    I say it's practical for anyone who isn't in a world first claiming guild, 50 extra dps won't be kill deciding in almost all cases. But hey, if you want to spend the money on maximizing your efficiency by all means go for it. However, if you call someone out for using blue gems then you need to get a reality check and understand its just a game, let people play it how they want to play it.
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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Choosing to be inferior is pathetic, the only purpose of gold is to augment your ability to succeed in a raid.

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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    My general rule for gemming:
    Below ilevel 200= green gems unless the item is actually half decent (question greens basically)
    iLevel 200-226: Blue gems unless it's an item from one of the new ice crown instances or one that isn't going to be replaced soon.
    iLevel 232+: Epic gems, no excuse to not have them.

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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Quote Originally Posted by Defaith
    Grats on the Attention.
    My thoughts exactly. You knew the answer before you even made this thread.
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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    It depends, really.

    Do you do progression raids? If so, you're letting your guild down by not buying those gems. Otherwise, it's not really an issue at all.

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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    I would have to say cheap.

    Of course without knowing your guild or gear level its hard to be too critical. But if you have managed to get 40k, it suggests you have been playing for a while, and probably have a character or two in gear which deserves epic gems.


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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    I would have done the same as you. 4 haste for 200g? 50g for one haste? No thanks.
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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    The funny thing is, those people that wouldn't spend the extra money on Epic Gems would probably throw a fit if they were denied loot that was an upgrade of a similar magnitude.

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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    The upgrades involved from better gemming sure.


    Maybe that blue to an epic gem upgrade would only be a 50 dps upgrade......



    but you need like 12. do the math.
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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Cheap. Times the 4 over how many gems you have. To save what, game gold? Point of WoW is to be the best toon you can be, in raids and/or pvp, not having the most gold. Try Monopoly.

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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkskeleton
    Depends how much it would cost to enchant/regem, if it was a weapon needing berserking enchant forget about it (In my opinion anyway)

    I say it's practical for anyone who isn't in a world first claiming guild, 50 extra dps won't be kill deciding in almost all cases. But hey, if you want to spend the money on maximizing your efficiency by all means go for it. However, if you call someone out for using blue gems then you need to get a reality check and understand its just a game, let people play it how they want to play it.
    You could not be more wrong if you tried, so lets take fight like Festurgut10 and say that your running 2 tanks 3 healers 5 DPS. Suddenly that 50 DPS slacking from each of your DPS classes becomes 250 raid DPS, 5 min enrange timer that works out at 750k Which is almost 8% of the bosses health.

    8% of a bosses health wont be a deciding factor in a kill?

    ...Suddenly doesn't sound so ''practical'' to me.

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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    if you upgrade all your gems, you will see a huge difference..
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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Quote Originally Posted by sulfuric
    Choosing to be inferior is pathetic, the only purpose of gold is to augment your ability to succeed in a raid.
    The sooner you spend your gold the sooner you have to go and farm more. Do you really enjoy doing dailies or mining ore for more gold? If you don't like farming gold, it's completely justifiable to not buy epic gems instead of rare gems.
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    Re: Am i a cheap bastard if i have 40k gold in the bank but

    Im a tank so i always buy epic gems as 6 stam time like 20 sockets is nice, my off-set is all blue gems, because im a JC and they are basically free. I make thousands of gold off of people buying my blue gems that i put up on the AH. I never buy epic gems, i buy them with honor. Buy uncuts and spam trade looking for a JC to cut it.
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