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    Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    Hallo, hallo.

    After kicking some Lich King butt we've set our foot into heroic ICC-10 but got our bottoms royally kicked by Marrowgar during Bone Storm.

    I wouldn't say that gear is the issue here because we're all in pretty much full 251-264 gear, so it's obvious we are doing the encounter wrong. Looking around haven't found a single good video of Marrowgar HC and I can't find any walkthrough of the heroic mode either.

    To put it simply: How do one survive the Bone Storm? Do the raid move fairly bunched up? Spread out and just attempt to play whack-a-mole on the bone spikes within range? Any special class that's considered a must (like resto druid?) ?

    Thanks for replies.

  2. #2

    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    Lost Society vs Heroic Lord Marrowgar (10 man) shattered halls eu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85pwS...layer_embedded

    Wowwikied it and it shows the change in strat and what not.
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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    How many melee do you run with? More than 2 is bad.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    Last time we ran with one melee, but we usually have two. Unfortunately with a fire mage as one of the heaviest DPS we're kind'a slow on bone spikes (although hopefully better now that the hunter has got DBW tonight). The rogue being our vastly best DPS sure doesn't help though since he's got trouble getting to bone spikes if there's too much coldflame in the way.

    Nice video though. Will definitely try with that grouping. Hadn't seen that one before.

  5. #5

    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    We had 8 people assigned to 8 different spots around the circle that Morrowgar starts in. N, E, S, W, NE, NE, SE and SW. Melee just stands around during storm in their spot. If Morrowgar comes to your spot, strafe to the left or right along the circle. Once he goes elsewhere, retake your spot.

    If everyone doesn't stand outside of the white border all healers can heal everyone and all DPS can hit any spike. The tanks stand in the middle of the circle so there is a higher chance that Morrowgar will hit them over anyone else (since they can take it). Everyone runs to their designated spots about 10s before storm.

    Slightly dodge the fire coupled with this strategy and this is all it takes. The big two things this fixes is 1) healers can heal anyone so they don't die and 2) ranged DPS can hit any spike to break people out.
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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trims
    How many melee do you run with? More than 2 is bad.
    Not really, we've done it with 4 without any problems.

    Just stack the raid behind Marrowgar for easy spike nuking and have one ranged leave that group shortly before bonestorm. The boss should pick that lone guy as his first target and the rest can spread out during this. Needless to say, nuke any spikes down fast.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    Yeah, our problem (I think) was that we often didn't get the spikes down fast enough, and with the tanks assisting with DPS on the spikes there was a fairly high chance that Marrowgar would head to the spiked person and kill either him or someone else in melee because we healers couldn't keep up. Guess leaving the tanks out of the spike-DPSing can make a world of difference.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inkompetent
    Last time we ran with one melee, but we usually have two. Unfortunately with a fire mage as one of the heaviest DPS we're kind'a slow on bone spikes (although hopefully better now that the hunter has got DBW tonight). The rogue being our vastly best DPS sure doesn't help though since he's got trouble getting to bone spikes if there's too much coldflame in the way.

    Nice video though. Will definitely try with that grouping. Hadn't seen that one before.
    Fire's dps is a fair bit lower than arcane, and even arcane has trouble competing on movement-intensive fights like marrowgar. If your highest dps is a fire mage, you may be having trouble because your other dps is not reaching their potential, making the encounter take longer than it needs to. Make sure your dps know how to gear and spec for their class.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    My guild splits up the raid in two groups, each group nukes the spikes on its side.

    heres my 25man video with ventrillo if its of any use.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBVfSfrGGZY

  10. #10

    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    Hunter/Ranged out, everyone else stack on the bosses ass.
    When he casts bone storm, get right out of his model, but dont spread out enough away from healers.
    Call out the spikes and dps them down ASAP.
    Rinse repeat.
    Its all about handling the bone storm and the spikes during it.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    We use 4 melee and 1 hunter. Still probably the easiest fight besides gunship. Just make sure noone is standing in fire, because it ticks hard in heroic and mash heals during bonestorm. When someone gets spiked during bonestorm just run over and get him out.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    Disco priest is your friend.

    Have your spriest shield himself or disperse, lock use his portal anticipating which way Marrowgar spins, rogues can sprint, have your ret, holy or protadin divine guardian, use healthstones. As for spikes, you need more ranged dps with nukes, hunter/mage ideally. Practice, lots of rng in that fight.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    When we did him, we had one healer moving staying to the left and one to the right in the big circle, it helps alot with having paladins using HoP (Hand of Protection) on one of the healer. If you are going with 3 healers it helps alot, and since it's not really a dps race you could go safe-mode and use 3 healers, the third obviously staying in the middle of the circle. Make sure you don't spread out to much, so you fast and smooth can dps down the spikes.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    On 10 man we generally stay within the biggest circle pattern on the ground. During bonestorm we generally just split into 2 groups more or less but move towards the outside of the circle pattern. When spikes come well usually have ranged down the one that inevitably gets caught in fire/Marrowgar himself and melee get the standalone one. As a DK I'll pop ams during spikes that are engulfed to help out a little.

    On 25 we confine ourselves to the area within the "trench" on the ground. If people move too far out it gets difficult to down the spikes when they come out. We clump up kind of in groups of 4-5 id say when bone storm comes, just stay spread out but not too spread out. Getting too spread out wiped us for a while when we first started 25 man heroic attempts.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    For our setup, we have our feraltank go resto.

    yea, using 4 healers 1 tank setup, 1-2 melee's and generally one of them just hangs around while the other one go for spikes.

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Numara

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    During the bonestorm we have everyone group up and go to the door, when marrowgar comes to the door we generally move to the center, unless there is a better spot. Then we move back and forth.

    We oneshot it with this tactic.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    We usually raid with 2healer but the SP switch to disc. priest for marrowgar (the bubble from priest = win)
    We got 1 melee (that's me) and people spread out (no assignation here, we just do it like it goes)

    We are up to Heroic LK 10 now, so im not talking shit :P

    Edited : Imo you shouldn't do what Thalendil said, if your group stack up for the Bonestorm, the boss will eventually put a bonespike on some1 and will Bonestorm right on him since every1 will be close to it. 1 guys spiked and directly ON the Bonestorm is hard to keep alive, if there's 9 people taking the full dmg of the WW too = pretty hard for surviving (that's only my opinion)

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    1 tank is best tip you can have
    and ppl not runing to ironforge so they are in range off all

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exactly
    We usually raid with 2healer but the SP switch to disc. priest for marrowgar (the bubble from priest = win)
    We got 1 melee (that's me) and people spread out (no assignation here, we just do it like it goes)

    We are up to Heroic LK 10 now, so im not talking shit :P

    Edited : Imo you shouldn't do what Thalendil said, if your group stack up for the Bonestorm, the boss will eventually put a bonespike on some1 and will Bonestorm right on him since every1 will be close to it. 1 guys spiked and directly ON the Bonestorm is hard to keep alive, if there's 9 people taking the full dmg of the WW too = pretty hard for surviving (that's only my opinion)
    If everyone stacks up the bonespikes are down in no time, as opposed to when everyone is all over the place.

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    Re: Marrowgar Heroic 10-man how?

    We use 3 healers, 2 tanks. We also have a kitty.

    What we do is, during bonestorm, everyone runs around and tries to stay away from spikes, except, the 2 tanks and kitty (who goes bear form), who have predestined spots that the rest of us stay away from. If bonestorm goes to them, they pop a cooldown and eat it and it takes a lot of stress off the healers.

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