Idea for future enhancement (Including 2h idea!!!!)

[Buddychrist]

I'm one of those "GIVE BACK VANILLAWOW" jerks and don't like the today Enhancement Shamans.
Was I bit boored and daydreamed a little until I had some fun with War-tools

The link: http://www.war-tools.com/t67926.html

Some fresh DW and 2h ideas with included:

Improved the DW specialization with 4/7/10% more critical damage bonus.

New Lava Lash "Elemental Lash" Improved FT bonus by 5% and when using frostbrand, target will get a 15% slower casting debuff for 4sec. Making it more useful in pvp.

2h Specialization: 3p 3% melee crit and 30% melee critical damage bonus when using 2hander. Mostly a pvp, or dungeon talent. But useful in raids also.

Wind Walk(I've read too many "GIEF WW" posts on Blizz forums, here you go): 5sec invisibility, next stormstrike damage increased by 20%. BUT it's linked to the 2h spec talent. PvP talent and can used in pve as threat dump.
And when wolves pop'd they will become invisble aswell and not attack during invisible, else it would be too op.

Nerfed Spirit wolves a little. Added 2 more mins CD and made it last 15sec longer.(But eeyyy... I buffed LL(EL) and DW spec by a touch so it wont affect pve that much)

Hope you'll like it. Share some thoughts ^^

[Naurs]

Well I honestly hope this is a troll.
The thing you are doing to 2h is just increasing the problem with 2hand, for enh shamans a 2h is way too rng which is why it isn't even remotely reliable (Well that and the missing of flametongue LL and offhand enchant but nvm that for now). If you buff the crit dmg from windfury it will just increase the rng/burst nature of 2hands, I doubt shamans will ever get to use 2hands again (And I don't want to, not even when looking through retarded glasses does standing around waiting to get a single windfury seem fun). You also have problems with MW stacks.

2H will not be viable for enh shamans again unless they redo our entire class and adds alot more melee attacks. Because the way it is right now, there will be way too far between you swings to make it even remotely useable, even with your silly changes.

Also why the hell should shamans get windwalk? In Wc3 it was a warrior/rogueish hybrid who had it. Shamans shouldn't go invis, it's just a silly cry out in an attempt to get an overpowered ability.

[Buddychrist]

The WW idea is just for giving those "WW Shammy ftw!" guys on blizz forums something to bite on. Imo. It would be interesting. The 2 hander idea is mainly for battleground pvp and dungeons. If a 2hander idea is soo bad Blizz should make DW trainable instead of a talent

[Hote]

looks cool and all WW nice,.

but 2H fix or waht ever you wanna call it.

its not the right way. we need 1-2 melee attacks more. atleast 1 trained. and some changes to maelstorm and such.

i would to see 2H in cata. but i doubt it. DW isnt always as fun.

[Torture]

I'm going to admit to secretly keeping a decent 2 handed axe in my bank (I was DE'ing for raid and simply popped one of my own shards in the bank) just in case Cata suddenly throws up a viable 2 handed shammy option. I used to raid as an imp slam arms warrior back in TBC, which was pretty reliant on WF totem at the time, but was tremendous fun with it, I guess I'm hoping we might get that sort of option in Cata, but I'm certainly not holding my breath (because I have water breathing and dont have to!)

[Deleted]

God I would love to be able to rock with a 2hander! I love the idea!

[Oneleg]

so now you have, Ret, Warrior - fury and arms, DK, Huntards "stat sticks" all trying to get 2 handers, yeah thats great. All ready have rogues taking our fists, and blizzard throwing in 400000 damn 1.5 speed axes for them. What do you think they would do to 2h if enhance could use them? You would see 1 drop for each dungeon just so that enhance would be put bottom of the list to get said weapon.


That and go read the damn stickies about 2h enhance.

[Omanley]

so now you have, Ret, Warrior - fury and arms, DK, Huntards "stat sticks" all trying to get 2 handers, yeah thats great.

It´s not hard to properly design itemisation for classes. t´s just that blizzard is so goddamn lazy about it.
1. hunter/feral-druids will be using their ( in the true sense of the word ) statsticks, which no one else wants
2.) didn´t blizzard say something about making fury 1hw dw again? wether or not they plan to do so, they should bring it back to the old days. 2handers are there to be weilded in both hands, having two of them simply looks surreal.
3.) enhancement shaman are an agility class, so they would suffer similar problems as frost dks currently do.
my solution would be a specialisation specific change similar to feral ap on weapons. an enh will tread any 2h and 1h weap with str as one with agility ( a weapon with 200 str will count as 200 agility for example ) and a frost dk will count any 1h agility weapon as a strenght one.

enh is a melee spec within a caster class. aside from the fact that shaman can wield 2h mace/axes, it wouldn´t feel weird to have both setups as a option. 2h could be the more faceroll and burst dmg version, dw the pro setup with sustained but higher damage to maximise raid dps.

All ready have rogues taking our fists, and blizzard throwing in 400000 damn 1.5 speed axes for them. What do you think they would do to 2h if enhance could use them? You would see 1 drop for each dungeon just so that enhance would be put bottom of the list to get said weapon.

everyone knows and agrees it was a major screwup for blizz to give rogues axes. even most rogues agree. but that has nothing to do with the topic at all. and what´s this with 1 weapon each dungeon ( i think you actually mean raid instance here ) ? alone in icc 25man there is an 2h axe from 1st boss, a 2h mace from 8ht boss, a 2h sword from Lichking as well as a crafted one ( shadows edge ) and two polearms, usable by rets, dks and arms ( aside from feral/hunter ofc )

That and go read the damn stickies about 2h enhance.

talk about being rude. it´s a suggestion how to make 2h viable and interesting again, not a " hay gais, i figured 2hand hits harder so im now raiding with 2h" brain fart. we all know 2h currently is crap. because of that, those players who would continue to post about 2h stuff regardless of it´s suckyness got now their own sand box to play in.

[Buddychrist]

About "2h need one more ability" This is just a cataclysm build. at 81-85 I'm sure there will be one more melee attack spell or selfbuff (Like increasing attack speed on your next 4 attacks by 300% or something).

And if you don't like the idea of 2hander, dont read these posts then. Have fun outside ^^

If blizzard made DW trainable from teacher instead of a talent the 2h discussion would end up differently, It's sad that Blizzard is forcing you to use DW at lv 40+

[Novarian]

I am sorry but I think this is a terrible idea. Being a vanilla shaman myself yeah I miss the days of when you could get big windfury procs off of two hand weapons but everyone seems to only remember that and not when you go for 5+ attacks without a windfury proc. At least with dual weilding you are attacking slightly faster which gives you more chances of proccing wf. Also your change to malestorm weapon will be insanely OP, you could basically just auto attack with both weapons, SS and LL and you have 5 stacks. That is not even including if a WF procs somewhere in there too. Leave enhance as it is and if you really want to go play a 2h shaman go roll a DK, because that is the closest thing you will get to having it back (minus the windfury).

Edit: On a side note I do like the change you made to LL, letting it affect frostbrand as well

[Buddychrist]

I'm pretty aware of the hit-hit-hit-hit-hit-WINDFURY OH YEAH!-hit-hit-hit-hit...

I added the crit bonus just for when windfury appears. Oh yeah... It will be deadly

[marlunara]

The WW idea is just for giving those "WW Shammy ftw!" guys on blizz forums something to bite on. Imo. It would be interesting. The 2 hander idea is mainly for battleground pvp and dungeons. If a 2hander idea is soo bad Blizz should make DW trainable instead of a talent

You will never see DW as a trainable option, Simply because you would then see resto and elemental shamans dualwield SP weapons, and every other SP depedant spec would cry out for a nerf.

One thing i would like is for them to remove fire nova, and make LL a sort of aoe attack in style with divine storm( lava splashing onto nearby targets sort of thing), i wouldnt mind if they increased the cd for it either. Just feel that fire nova is a freaking joke when there are lots of movement, and generally dont see the purpose of it for a shaman

[Buddychrist]

You will never see DW as a trainable option, Simply because you would then see resto and elemental shamans dualwield SP weapons, and every other SP depedant spec would cry out for a nerf.

That happen once with the black temple dagger, now all SP weapons are Mainhand not one-hand.