Ferocious Bite!

[pwas]

Oki would like some opinions about Ferocious Bite.For the last 2 week i've tested if using Ferocious Bite at perfect time roar > 22 sec and rip>9sec to see if its a dps increase.From what i saw shredding instead till rip falls to reapply it give me a better up-time on my dots and better dps.Only time i use bite its on mobs that are going to die in next 5 second or so.The only really certain thing is that shredding while berserk gives more dps then using bites.

I would like to see if any1 else tested this and can share it.Tnx in advance

[Ekna]

I've been testing that out the last couple of weeks and looking also at the different meters that we have. if i look then about biting and just shredding away when berserk is popped, then i must say for me there is hardly any difference in DPS, what i do see is that it's easier to keep the different debuffs or buffs up, it's sometimes better in my opinion to clip a SR then to bite.

[Ameow]

I think alot of this depends on gear setup and what not, I find right now that getting my initial dots rolling, with berserk up i just keep using shred and don't do any FB at all. So i finish berserk with 5 combo points, this allowing me to refresh my dots and SR before everything drops off.

I suppose this is down to play style and you being able to keep everything rolling, if your going to lose any of your buffs/debuffs for a few seconds then FB just isn't worth it in my eyes.

[Shifthappens]

if u have a good 14-15 sec on SR and 12-13s on Rip then use FB, u will have time to reapply SR+rip, also having Mangle bot helps... but nvm that problem is solved in upcoming patch

[arel00]

Also knowing that you have TF ready just after you Bite, to get back faster into the normal Rip-SR "rotation" helps a lot. Managing timers and energy becomes essential if you want to weave in Bites quite often.

[thonga]

Been thinking, wanna try full armpen cap, and then just spam shred rake and ferobite, leave out rip.. dunno if it would work tho ;D

on average i guess i use 4-6 fero bite pr boss, and it sure hits like a train

[littlepiggy]

Been thinking, wanna try full armpen cap, and then just spam shred rake and ferobite, leave out rip.. dunno if it would work tho ;D

on average i guess i use 4-6 fero bite pr boss, and it sure hits like a train

it would work, but your dps would drop substantially. at arp cap FB's dpe is 766 and rip is 2989

this is assuming pretty much all 277 gear, but that just makes rip worth more at 264~ gear level

[pwas]

First i was the mangle bot.Thank god 3.3.3 comes this week :P

My tests were with 1114 Arp (+food) and and 66% critic.For example on festergud getting bite in my rotation the dps was 10.3k with an 77% on rake and 79% uptime while keep shreding got me to 10.6k and 88% on rake and 89% on rip up time.The difference was of 300 dps and its probably regeneration based but its still a dps increase.

About bites on berserk i was thinking of shreding till berserk of and bite at end if Rip/SR wont drop and i got time to refresh them because ill probably be close to 35 energy which is less then a full shred but does more dmg.

[littlepiggy]

For example on festergud getting bite in my rotation the dps was 10.3k with an 77% on rake and 79% uptime while keep shreding got me to 10.6k and 88% on rake and 89% on rip up time.

that's why you only FB if rip and rake won't fall off, you should try to bite with more time remaining on the bleeds or as arel said, with tiger's fury up soon

[Melonberry]

Using FB properly is one of the big differences between good and bad ferals. It's really not that hard to keep a buff and 2 bleeds up if you aren't using combo points on FB and are pooling energy instead of shreding right when you have enough.

There's a nice balancing point in there. It's between 0 and 20 FBs a minute...and depends on luck as well as your gear.

[4yBaK]

The worst thing with FB is that it could be used only at 35 energy or it would be a waste. I would be much happier if Bliz make it work like Eviscerate... Also they should add something like 'increases duration of SR by additional 1s + 1s per CP'. So FB will become must(at least usefull) in Feral rotation. Now I'm hardly ever using it.. I think only when there's 5CP on target and TF is ready.

[Plankeh]

Using FB properly is one of the big differences between good and bad ferals. It's really not that hard to keep a buff and 2 bleeds up if you aren't using combo points on FB and are pooling energy instead of shreding right when you have enough.

There's a nice balancing point in there. It's between 0 and 20 FBs a minute...and depends on luck as well as your gear.

Not sure if the above means you're for or against FB usage ;o ?

Anyways, using FB is certainly a huge boost if timed right. As said above, if your bleeds and buffs are all happily running just pop up a FB. 5 CB's are piss easy to get with the amount we should be critting anyway .. 3 hits and we got 5 CB again, takes less than 3 seconds to refresh a 5 point Rip / SR.

[littlepiggy]

Not sure if the above means you're for or against FB usage ;o ?

Anyways, using FB is certainly a huge boost if timed right. As said above, if your bleeds and buffs are all happily running just pop up a FB. 5 CB's are piss easy to get with the amount we should be critting anyway .. 3 hits and we got 5 CB again, takes less than 3 seconds to refresh a 5 point Rip / SR.

not at 0 energy, i think we get roughly 10 energy in 1 gcd. if you have TF up then ya it won't long to get 5 combo points, but shred doesn't cost 20 energy so even then it's not 3 seconds.