View Poll Results: Dpsers - do u help your healers?

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  • Yes, im using defensive CDs (ex.AM shell, Barkskin)

    110 55.56%
  • No, using defensive CDs is waste of dps, I wont do their job

    24 12.12%
  • Yes, im using defensvie talents (ex. magic asporption)

    8 4.04%
  • Yes, using both talents and defensive CDs

    56 28.28%
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    Poll for Dpsers: Defensive cooldowns

    Most ppl i meet in pugs will never help healers by using defensive CDs, so im interested do u guys think the same


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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    I use my cooldowns as dps whenever i get some sort of dmg on me. Sure its a loss of dps of 1 gcd, but dead dps is no dps.

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    I use all defensive CDs Elemental Shamans have (zero!).
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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    Quote Originally Posted by SC2 Beta Key
    I use all defensive CDs Elemental Shamans have (zero!).
    Amen!

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    In most cases dps cant really do much to help healers.
    As a warlock i do use Death Coil, my endless healthpot and healthstone if i receive a big hit from a boss. In some fight i do ofc also have portal ready, so yea, helping as much as possible. (Also, im demo so im using soul link aswell )
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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    So far 80% claims to be using defensive cooldowns in pugs.
    Yet 80% of people I see in pugs don't even properly wasd out of crap.
    I smell hypocrisy.

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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    Quote Originally Posted by SC2 Beta Key
    I use all defensive CDs Elemental Shamans have (zero!).
    This . But i did spec into http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28998. But only for hardmode raiding.

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    On my warrior I pop enraged regen anytime I know there's goin to be heavy aoe damage soons. Saved my ass so many times on stinky and festergut after a blight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC2 Beta Key
    I use all defensive CDs Elemental Shamans have (zero!).
    You can heal yourselfe with Maelstrom procs...
    I love dps that can heal and die when they are far from healers ...
    You know healers cant Fed Ex you heals over there....

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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    Quote Originally Posted by Zka
    So far 80% claims to be using defensive cooldowns in pugs.
    Yet 80% of people I see in pugs don't even properly wasd out of crap.
    I smell hypocrisy.
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    on topic, as a warrior I have shield wall / switch to def stance / switch mh/oh macro'd (and other way around aswell to get back to dps'ing fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrusnikNlo
    You can heal yourselfe with Maelstrom procs...
    I love dps that can heal and die when they are far from healers ...
    You know healers cant Fed Ex you heals over there....
    Healing oneself doesn't really qualify as a "defensive cooldown" tbh.
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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeo
    Healing oneself doesn't really qualify as a "defensive cooldown" tbh.
    Qualifies as helping the healers though
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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    In progression content yes, in farm content and 5-mans no.

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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    I use Defensive CD's alot (my DK is Frost DW so I drop UA all the frakkin time, plus AMS on bosses with heavy magic damage) but I don't spec into defensive talents unless they also boost my dps. The way I see it, I'm a Dps, my job is to spec/gem/gear myself to put out as much Dps as possible without pulling agro, so whereas dropping the odd AMS wont hurt my dps, and in some cases will infact boost it, I'm not gunna screw around with my spec taking defensive talents, as that will harm my dps, and the lower my dps, the longer the boss is alive, the more damage he'll do.
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    While playing my paladin as ret, I will bubble the healer if he's in trouble.
    I also cast the odd Lay on Hands when needed. It's just 1 button press to save a wipe.

    Sometimes I even taunt off the healer (I know bad tank) if it means that I die and the healer doesn't.

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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    Deterence for things like Lokens AOE, Maiden of Griefs AOE stun, stuff I can see about to happen. Disengage for getting out of aoe patches and moving away fast and FD... Best defensive CD ever.

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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusnikNlo
    You can heal yourselfe with Maelstrom procs...
    I love dps that can heal and die when they are far from healers ...
    You know healers cant Fed Ex you heals over there....
    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeo
    Healing oneself doesn't really qualify as a "defensive cooldown" tbh.
    Well considering maelstrom weapon is enhancement and the original guy said he was elemental I am thinking maelstrom weapon procs are a no-go. What do you guys think??!?!
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    none of them does, believe me you'll see it if you're a tank

    just a few days ago we were doing anub'rekhan for weekly raid, a mage pulled aggro about a minute into the fight (I was using my TF, not expecting anyone to do over 3k dps), and the boss was taunt immune (which was my fault, I'll admit to actually doing something wrong as apose to the 9000 things you get blamed for that aren't your fault as a tank) but does he use invis? does he even use ice block? no! all he does is run away from me and say OMG TANK WTF!

    I mean, seriously, the dps nowadays are shit, none of them know how to properly do a rotation or to keep themself alive, let alone use their cooldowns to save others or help the healers.

    I am actually impressed when I see a dps do something smart, I've never seen a retradin LOH or hand me during big damage, I rarely see DK's making proper use of death grip, I rarely see people stopping dps when they're supposed to.

    Just because your role is the easiest doesn't give you an excuse for slacking off, read some theoriecrafting and optimise your dps, and use some skill while you're at it.


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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    Quote Originally Posted by Malania
    Deterence for things like Lokens AOE, Maiden of Griefs AOE stun, stuff I can see about to happen. Disengage for getting out of aoe patches and moving away fast and FD... Best defensive CD ever.
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    Re: Poll for Dpsers

    I use defensive cooldowns only if they let me improve my DPS by sitting in AoE, eg. Cloak of Shadows, Feint, evasion for whirlwinds

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