Best tanking gloves enchant

[xebtria]

Please please oh god please stop saying this.

BOSSES DON'T GET HASTE FROM PARRIES ANYMORE.

Comprehensive List of Bosses With Parry Haste Enabled (v2.0)
http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.c...rb_v=viewtopic

Lady Deathwhisper - Parry Haste Enabled
Confirmed http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.c...wtopic#p540182
Confirmed http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.c...wtopic#p542149

Sindragosa - Parry Haste Enabled
Confirmed http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.c...wtopic#p540182


and thats only for ICC. So parry haste still exists. it's just disabled at most bosses in ICC and even then it's not that much of a concern, because melee hits are relatively low in ICC to make up for the 20% dodge debuff.

[Elunedra]

so anyone know what i should set rawr surviabilty softcap to for IC25 ?

[Themessiah]

From my experience, if you can survive totgc 25, you can survive icc 25 without hardship. So I would set that as my cap.

[Tharkkun]

Let see...

Melee
Lord Marrowgar
Deathbringer Saurfang
Professor Putricide

Mixture
Festergut
Rotface
The Lich King

Magic
Sindragosa
Blood Prince Council
Blood-Queen Lana'thel

Does not count
Valithria Dreamwalker
Gunship Battle

You need a glove enchantment that work for both Magic and Melee. I find that +20 agility is still good for both type of fight, even +18 stamina is still ok.

I would just choose +20 agility because of the multi skill we have 2% more when we have IMotW+ paladin king 10% giving us about 22.4 agility.

Every fight except Deathwhisper and Dreamwalker are highly physical damage fights. Sindragosa (which you are wearing frost resist for) hits for very little frost damage but smacks you hard with melee attack. That's what kills us imo. Lich King, with the exception of a Soul Reaper every minute is purely physical. Most people don't tank it unless there's a cooldown on you. The only real exception is for Blood Queen if you're the offtank, it's all shadow.

If you want to modify your list to say this is how healers see the fight in terms of damage this would be true. But raid healing doesn't equal the damage the tank takes because everyone is taking that same damage.

I went with armor myself.

[exochaft]

At this point, any enchant works for gloves, just use whatever keeps you from dying. :P
So far, I haven't died to anything short of 5-digit overkills in hardmodes, so if I switched out my 20agi for 18 stam, I'd actually be lowering my chance to live. If I start dying to really low overkills, then I'd see more benefit with the stamina. Keep in mind, this is for MY gear, it might not be the same for you. Basically, I'm at the point where my EH is more than enough and increasing my TTL is more beneficial through armor and agi.

And for heroic 25man Sindragosa, her melee isn't something to shake a stick at compared to normal modes... I'd say it's inferior to 3-stack Festergut melee on normal. For all the magic damage that is thrown about in ICC, there's really only one fight I wouldn't use armor pots, and that's OTing Blood Queen... okay, I lied, Lootship doesn't deserve an armor pot.

[littlepiggy]

would 1.67% damage reduction to all melee attacks out-weigh 0.5% chance to dodge them all?

.5 dodge before DR, so in reality at this gear level it's more like .3?

so anyone know what i should set rawr surviabilty softcap to for IC25 ?

http://elitistjerks.com/rawr.php
rawr 3 is out, it may not be for everyone since it's in a browser and they are still working out bugs, but it says the survival soft cap is 350,000 for ICC 25 H. if you want a different number give this new rawr a try (or just to look at the updated survival caps)

[Tharkkun]

And the new 10% buff just put me over the 25man icc survival cap. Be aware you may have to bump it up or ignore it because it will tell you to re-gem everything.

[Elunedra]

http://elitistjerks.com/rawr.php
rawr 3 is out, it may not be for everyone since it's in a browser and they are still working out bugs, but it says the survival soft cap is 350,000 for ICC 25 H. if you want a different number give this new rawr a try (or just to look at the updated survival caps)

tnx i tryed rawr 3 before but it crashed epicly for me ^^

[Tharkkun]

tnx i tryed rawr 3 before but it crashed epicly for me ^^

Yeah I can't do custom gemming on it yet either. When they say beta, they mean it.