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  1. #1

    So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    I put in everything right, and it spat out 124,000 dps... Which is why I was hesitant about using it before.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...%C3%A5r%C3%ADs

    I don't know why, but I'm dpsing my ass off and am only pulling like 8k dps, and I know I should be doing more with my gear. I'm following the priority queue on EJ BiS thread. I have both 264 totems.

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    [Shadowmourne, I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish, but frostmourne is one of the best weapons of all time, of all time]

  2. #2

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    You sure it was 124k?

    I don't have EnhSim downloaded right now but you may just be miss reading the result and it probably was 12.4k which I'd assume is very plausible with your gear level.
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  3. #3

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    124 thousand DPS, eh?

    If you mean 12.4, know that that is under perfect conditions. This means no lag, never screwing up any of your rotation, perfect raid buffs, and on a patchwerk type fight.

  4. #4

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    My guess there is a extra 0 in there somewhere... Or you aren't using all 264 totems as magma at once... My guess is the data you started with is off somewhere but I like them totem angle too.

    Ps how is spirestone for ally these days? When I left it was still pretty much a wasteland on ally side...

  5. #5

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    There is an easy solution to this. Post your config file in
    Code:
    config
    code brackets and we will tell you exactly what is wrong with it. Yes, EnhSim works PERFECTLY fine when used correctly.

  6. #6

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    I just ran a sim using your armory and it is indeed 12.4k.

    Edit : I use periods gud.

  7. #7

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroX0X
    I just ran a sim using your armory and it is indeed 12.4k.

    Edit : I use periods gud.
    It's impossible that EnhSim would tell him he should be doing 12.4k because that would mean that is current gear is better than BiS. So someone is doing something wrong, and I don't think it's Rava (creator of the BiS list).

    Post your config as Barawr said and this can easily be sorted. But even before that I can tell you that you should get rid of all of your attack power gems. At your gear level I can pretty much guarantee that haste is better.


    Edit: I ran your armory though the sim, and I got just over 10k, but keep in mind I used an optomized config file based on the BiS thread and that takes Rouncers' ArP workaround into account. If you add in a 5% ICC buff you could round to ~10.5k.

  8. #8

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Code:
    ### Saved by v1.9.8.1 of EnhSimGUI
    
    config_version         1.9.8.1
    simulation_time         1000
    simulation_time_combatlog    30
    combat_length          5
    report_count          80
    threads             1
    combat_length_rng_factor    0
    min_lag             0
    max_lag             0
    simulate_mana          1
    cast_sr_on_cooldown       1
    
    ep_precision          2
    ep_base_stat          ap
    ep_ap              200
    ep_crit_rating         30
    ep_hit_rating          30
    ep_expertise          4
    ep_haste_rating         30
    ep_armor_penetration_rating   30
    ep_spellpower          150
    ep_dps             7.5
    ep_mana             250
    ep_spirit            150
    ep_mp5             20
    
    mh_auto_attack         1
    oh_auto_attack         1
    wait_ss_with_wf_cd       0.00
    cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd    1
    use_bloodlust          1
    always_bloodlust_wolves     0
    sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets  0
    cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left    15.0
    cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left  4
    cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active   1
    cast_fs_only_if_dots_left    0
    cast_ls_only_if_charges_left  2
    cast_magma_only_if_ticks_left  2
    cast_sr_only_if_mana_left    750
    use_mana_potion_if_mana_left  3000
    necrotic_touch         0
    necrotic_touch_heroic      0
    
    rotation_priority_count     14
    rotation_priority1       MW5_CL
    rotation_priority2       LS_0
    rotation_priority3       SW
    rotation_priority4       SR
    rotation_priority5       FS
    rotation_priority6       SS_0
    rotation_priority7       FE
    rotation_priority8       MT_0
    rotation_priority9       ES
    rotation_priority10       SS
    rotation_priority11       LL
    rotation_priority12       FN
    rotation_priority13       MT
    rotation_priority14       LS
    
    aoe_rotation_priority_count   0
    
    fight_name           
    miss              8.0
    dodge              6.5
    glancing            24.0
    armor              10645
    spell_miss           17.0
    nature_resistance        0
    fire_resistance         0
    frost_resistance        0
    arcane_resistance        0
    shadow_resistance        0
    
    additional_targets       0
    additional_target_percent    0.0
    additional_target_level     0
    
    armor_debuff_major       20.0/20.0
    armor_debuff_minor       5.0/5.0
    physical_vulnerability_debuff  4.0/4.0
    melee_haste_buff        20.0/20.0
    melee_crit_chance_buff     5.0/5.0
    attack_power_buff_flat     688/688
    attack_power_buff_multiplier  99.7/99.7
    spell_haste_buff        5.0/5.0
    spell_crit_chance_buff     5.0/5.0
    spell_crit_chance_debuff    5.0/5.0
    spell_damage_debuff       10.0/10.0
    spellpower_buff         280/280
    spell_hit_chance_debuff     3.0/3.0
    haste_buff           3.0/3.0
    percentage_damage_increase   3.0/3.0
    crit_chance_debuff       3.0/3.0
    stat_multiplier         10.0/10.0
    stat_add_buff          52/52
    agi_and_strength_buff      178/178
    intellect_buff         60/60
    
    replenishment          0
    water_shield          0
    mana_spring_totem        0
    blessing_of_wisdom       0
    judgement_of_wisdom       0
    mixology            0
    
    flask_elixir          flask_of_endless_rage
    guardian_elixir         -
    potion             potion_of_speed
    food              fish_feast
    
    ###############################################################################
    ### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
    ### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon     ###
    ###############################################################################
    
    race              draenei
    mh_speed            2.6
    oh_speed            2.6
    mh_dps             205.6
    oh_dps             205.6
    mh_crit             46.90
    oh_crit             46.90
    mh_hit             15.07
    oh_hit             15.07
    mh_expertise_rating       26
    oh_expertise_rating       26
    ap               5553
    melee_haste           22.08
    armor_penetration        287
    str               147
    agi               1578
    int               727
    spi               171
    spellpower           1939
    spell_crit           31.6
    spell_hit            18.83
    spell_haste           22.08
    max_mana            15021
    mp5               77
    
    mh_imbue            windfury
    oh_imbue            flametongue
    
    mh_enchant           berserking
    oh_enchant           berserking
    
    mh_weapon            axe
    oh_weapon            axe
    
    trinket1            deathbringers_will
    trinket2            herkuml_war_token
    
    totem              bizuris_totem_of_shattered_ice
    
    set_bonus1           t10_battlegear_4
    set_bonus2           -
    set_bonus3           -
    
    metagem             chaotic_skyflare_diamond
    
    gloves_enchant         -
    cloak_enchant          -
    ring_proc            ashen_verdict
    
    glyph_major1          windfury_weapon
    glyph_major2          stormstrike
    glyph_major3          feral_spirit
    
    glyph_minor1          -
    glyph_minor2          -
    glyph_minor3          -
    
    ancestral_knowledge       2/5
    improved_shields        3/3
    mental_dexterity        3/3
    shamanistic_focus        1/1
    flurry             5/5
    elemental_weapons        3/3
    unleashed_rage         3/3
    weapon_mastery         3/3
    dual_wield_specialization    3/3
    mental_quickness        3/3
    improved_stormstrike      0/2
    static_shock          3/3
    maelstrom_weapon        5/5
    
    convection           0/5
    concussion           5/5
    call_of_flame          3/3
    elemental_devastation      3/3
    reverberation          0/5
    elemental_focus         0/1
    elemental_fury         5/5
    improved_fire_nova       2/2
    call_of_thunder         0/1
    unrelenting_storm        0/3
    elemental_precision       0/3
    lightning_mastery        0/5
    elemental_oath         0/2
    lightning_overload       0/5
    lava_flows           0/3
    storm_earth_and_fire      0/3
    shamanism            0/5
    RESULT: (121k dps)
    Code:
    EnhSim version 1.9.8.1
    
    ................................................................................
    
    MH:
    miss        146479     4.93%
    dodge        102704     3.46%
    glancing      712126     23.97%
    hit         142658     4.80%
    crit        1866502    62.84%
    average ap     9484.92    
    clip    Calculation 7/14: Haste calculated.
    Calculation 8/14: Armor Penetration calculated.
    Calculation 9/14: Spellpower calculated.
    Calculation 10/14: Mh Dps calculated.
    Calculation 11/14: Oh Dps calculated.
    Calculation 12/14: Mana calculated.
    Calculation 13/14: Spirit calculated.
    Calculation 14/14: Mp5 calculated.
    
    
    EP            value   DPS    total DPS   difference
    
    baseline                   121582.55
    ap            1.00   11.73   123929.16   2346.61
    crit rating        1.44   16.88   122088.97   506.42
    hit rating        1.96   22.96   122271.44   688.89
    expertise rating     3.45   40.49   122910.35   1327.80
    haste rating       1.78   20.92   122210.14   627.59
    armor penetration rating 65.15   764.40  144514.68   22932.13
    spellpower        0.04   0.53   121661.38   78.83
    mh dps          7.68   90.15   122258.68   676.13
    oh dps          2.50   29.36   121802.74   220.19
    strength         1.10   
    agility          1.99   
    intelligence       0.31   
    spirit          0.01   0.13   121602.41   19.87
    mana           -0.05   -0.56   121442.15   -140.40
    mp5            0.85   10.00   121782.48   199.93
    
    ( Pawn: v1: "EnhSim": Ap=1.00, CritRating=1.44, HitRating=1.96, HasteRating=1.78, ExpertiseRating=3.45, ArmorPenetration=65.15, SpellDamage=0.04, MainHandDps=7.68, OffHandDps=2.50, Strength=1.10, Agility=1.99, Intellect=0.31, Spirit=0.01, Mana=-0.05, Mp5=0.85 )
    http://www.lootrank.com/wow/wr.asp?C...65.15&Exp=3.45
    
    elapsed simulation time: 14000.00h
    elapsed real time: 68.82s
    simulation speed: 732387x
       9489.86    
    
    Chain Lightning:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         242116     54.17%
    crit        204815     45.83%
    average sp     3750.07    
    
    Fire Nova:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         191448     54.27%
    crit        161340     45.73%
    average sp     3730.91    
    
    Lightning Shield:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         521070     100.00%
    crit        0       0.00%
    average sp     3731.13    
    
    Spirit Wolves:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      415274     24.03%
    hit         1114608    64.50%
    crit        198118     11.47%
    average ap     9547.78    
    
    Magma Totem:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         445710     54.24%
    crit        376057     45.76%
    average sp     3724.73    
    
    Fire Elemental Melee:
    miss        30798     8.02%
    dodge        16316     4.25%
    glancing      92146     24.00%
    hit         233205     60.73%
    crit        11535     3.00%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Shield:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         437217     92.01%
    crit        37949     7.99%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Nova:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         176514     91.93%
    crit        15486     8.07%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Blast:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         182084     91.97%
    crit        15895     8.03%
    
    Fire Elemental stats:
    average ap     9524.75    
    average sp     3730.97    
    MPS         65.55     
    MPCooldown     7865.52    
    Out of mana time  0.00%
    MRPCooldown     398.96     
    MRPS        3.42      
    
    Fire Elemental   MRPS without overregen
    mana regen     3.32   100.00%
    judgement of wisdom 0.00   0.00%
    
    
    Maelstrom Weapon:
    PPM         53.80
    efficiency     69.22%
    
    flurry uptime         96.01%
    elemental devastation uptime  81.55%
    mh enchant uptime       51.21%
    oh enchant uptime       47.60%
    stormstrike debuff uptime   79.08%
    flame shock uptime       72.17%
    lightning shield uptime    99.42%
    magma totem uptime       46.65%
    fire elemental uptime     40.00%
    
    trinket1 uptime        28.46%
    totem uptime          96.62%
    ring proc uptime        16.56%
    
    
    Set bonus uptimes:
    Frost Witch's Battlegear 2 piece    25.00%
    Frost Witch's Battlegear 4 piece    17.80%
    
              MRPS without overregen
    mana regen     0.97   0.36%
    mp5         14.93   5.55%
    replenishment    0.00   0.00%
    unrelenting storm  0.00   0.00%
    judgement of wisdom 0.00   0.00%
    shamanistic rage  253.09  94.09%
    mana potion     0.00   0.00%
    misc        0.00   0.00%
    stormstrike     0.00   0.00%
    
              DPS         PPM    MPS
    white        79390.57 65.3%   99.02
    windfury      26888.75 22.12%  7.51
    flametongue     910.43  0.75%   58.68
    stormstrike     10158.39 8.36%   5.84   32.18   9.83%
    lava lash      447.03  0.37%   8.17   22.49   6.87%
    magma totem     329.83  0.27%   1.49   27.78   8.49%
    earth shock     382.29  0.31%   4.37   28.26   8.63%
    flame shock     464.37  0.38%   3.58   21.82   6.67%
    chain lightning   881.31  0.72%   7.45   141.90  43.35%
    fire nova      364.66  0.3%   5.88   46.44   14.19%
    lightning shield  321.42  0.26%   1.27   0.00   0.00%
    spirit wolves    389.66  0.32%   0.40   3.31   1.01%
    fire elemental   644.54  0.53%   0.20   3.17   0.97%
     melee       360.02  55.86%  6.40
     fire shield    22.30   3.46%   7.92
     fire nova     169.19  26.25%  3.20
     fire blast    93.03   14.43%  3.30
    
    DPS         121573.25
    MPS         327.34
    MP2min       39280.99
    MRPS        317.36
    Out of mana time  12.06%
    
    elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
    elapsed real time: 5.21s
    simulation speed: 691376x
    Quote Originally Posted by ferret990
    so worgens shammys--- wolves who turn into wolves who summon wolves who ride wolves-win
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor
    [Shadowmourne, I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish, but frostmourne is one of the best weapons of all time, of all time]

  9. #9

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Bump
    Quote Originally Posted by ferret990
    so worgens shammys--- wolves who turn into wolves who summon wolves who ride wolves-win
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor
    [Shadowmourne, I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish, but frostmourne is one of the best weapons of all time, of all time]

  10. #10

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Getting the same result when I run your config through 1.8.1, can't find any issues with the config at first glance, I'm going to try 1.7.1.
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  11. #11

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Code:
    armor_penetration        287
    Input your ArP as a percentage.

    Also, your expertise as a rating. The value that you have in there would actually give you a lower output than what you should have.

    There are likely other mistakes but I'll just give you an easy solution rather than searching for each thing that's wrong. Just use Rawr to set up your toon's gear (easily done by importing from armory) and then export the stats to EnhSim. The correct form of each stat is guaranteed to be used that way.

    Also noticed that you've got CL listed as your top priority spell. You should be using LB when you get 5 stacks of MW, not CL. The spellpower coefficient on LB is higher than CL so LB is actually more single-target DPS, despite what the tooltips may say.

  12. #12
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    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    guess it is just a bug with the sim, btw i like your sigs:P

  13. #13

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Using your same config but simply changing your ArP from a rating to the proper percentage gave me a result of about 10.5k. Obviously that's not correct if there are other errors involved, and the best way to avoid such errors is to export your stats from Rawr.

  14. #14

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Quote Originally Posted by Billnye
    Code:
    armor_penetration       287
    Input your ArP as a percentage.

    Also, your expertise as a rating. The value that you have in there would actually give you a lower output than what you should have.

    There are likely other mistakes but I'll just give you an easy solution rather than searching for each thing that's wrong. Just use Rawr to set up your toon's gear (easily done by importing from armory) and then export the stats to EnhSim. The correct form of each stat is guaranteed to be used that way.

    Also noticed that you've got CL listed as your top priority spell. You should be using LB when you get 5 stacks of MW, not CL. The spellpower coefficient on LB is higher than CL so LB is actually more single-target DPS, despite what the tooltips may say.
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    I pity people who have gotten so insensate to disrespect and abuse from repetition that they have elevated being jaded to a virtue.

  15. #15

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamara
    guess it is just a bug with the sim, btw i like your sigs:P
    Don't blame the sim because you don't properly know how to use it please. People put a lot of work into it to make sure its in tip top shape.
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  16. #16

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    elapsed simulation time: 14000.00h maybe this?


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  17. #17
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    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Quote Originally Posted by reyson
    min_lag 0
    max_lag 0
    Invalid lag times. This will generate a warning I know I put the warning in the code.

    Quote Originally Posted by reyson
    mh_expertise_rating 26
    oh_expertise_rating 26
    This is wrong you have 144 expertise RATING.

    Quote Originally Posted by reyson
    ap 5553
    Your current armoury export shows 4888 AP where did you get the extra 700 ish AP? Buffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by reyson
    armor_penetration 287
    WOW!!! If you tell the sim you have 287% Armour penetration then OF COURSE its going to suggest you do high dps. That would mean that no amount of boss armour is going to resist your attacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by reyson
    spellpower 1939
    Same as AP your armoury export I just did shows 1466 spell power you have entered almost 500 extra SP. This is going to vastly inflate your damage.


    So numerous things just plain wrong with that file. The biggest is going to be ArP as rating instead of percentage. Vastly over inflating your AP & SP will also skew your results. Not using any lag just isn't physically possible and therefore will screw your results (NB. SCREW them not just skew them - you should NEVER EVER run with zero lag it just CANNOT happen in practice). Your Expertise as value instead of rating will have added extra misses and lowered the dps but not enough to have countered the other errors.

  18. #18

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    No offence but DBW on enh shaman? :

    But yeah maybe you missplaced some numbers?

  19. #19

    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Quote Originally Posted by Levva

    Your current armoury export shows 4888 AP where did you get the extra 700 ish AP? Buffs?

    Same as AP your armoury export I just did shows 1466 spell power you have entered almost 500 extra SP. This is going to vastly inflate your damage.
    My guess is that he added the ap from his trinket etc which I guess the mod would add in afterwards resulting in double counting those things.
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  20. #20
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    Re: So EnhSim thinks I should be doing 120k dps...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tereell
    No offence but DBW on enh shaman? :

    But yeah maybe you missplaced some numbers?
    Why on earth would he not have DBW? Its a decent enough trinket. Or are you one of these people that fixate on the equip text of a trinket and dismiss the real proc? The Equip text ArP doesn't make the trinket bad as its proc is very good, not BiS of course but very good none the less.

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