Question for Frost Tanks dinging 80

[Evoic]

I recently found some love for my DK that had been stowed away since the release and have gone on a 15-level spree with him.

I decided to level as a Frost tank and I'm definitely enjoying the playstyle (minus the little 2 sec rune gaps sometimes).

I recently picked up a few nice pieces that look to last me until I can start equipping epics at level 80.
My question is this: Which pieces are a near NECESSITY for a newly dinged frost DK tank.
I'm guessing The Seal of the Pantheon due to DEF starved gear choices, but is there anything else that is a "must have" and will last for a bit while I replace the rest of the pieces?

Thank in advance !


Edit: I'm aware of the sticky for pre-heroic gear, just curious of WHICH piece will do me best / last the longest, therefore is most crucial / beneficial.

[Apostolic]

I recently found some love for my DK that had been stowed away since the release and have gone on a 15-level spree with him.

I decided to level as a Frost tank and I'm definitely enjoying the playstyle (minus the little 2 sec rune gaps sometimes).

I recently picked up a few nice pieces that look to last me until I can start equipping epics at level 80.
My question is this: Which pieces are a near NECESSITY for a newly dinged frost DK tank.
I'm guessing The Seal of the Pantheon due to DEF starved gear choices, but is there anything else that is a "must have" and will last for a bit while I replace the rest of the pieces?

Thank in advance !


Edit: I'm aware of the sticky for pre-heroic gear, just curious of WHICH piece will do me best / last the longest, therefore is most crucial / beneficial.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37220
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47216

One or both of those for a fresh 80 would be the best

[Surtr]

Use http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47735 along with http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47216

[Evoic]

Thanks for the posts!

I was kind of thinking along the same lines.
Seal of the Pantheon for the +DEF and The Black heart for the +STAM.
I remember attempting to get Essence of Gossamer and it took 22 (!!!!) tries to get it to drop on my Prot pally.
That trinket can burn in hell. : -)

[Apostolic]

Thanks for the posts!

I was kind of thinking along the same lines.
Seal of the Pantheon for the +DEF and The Black heart for the +STAM.
I remember attempting to get Essence of Gossamer and it took 22 (!!!!) tries to get it to drop on my Prot pally.
That trinket can burn in hell. : -)

LOL Both my tank toons got it on the first try. Same with Black Heart, guess I am just a lucky SoB.

[Xandrellas]

Using horn of winter during a rune blackout helps with more RP and something to do while waiting ;-)

[Evoic]

Using horn of winter during a rune blackout helps with more RP and something to do while waiting ;-)

Which would be a perfect segway for me to ask why the HELL do we have to refresh this thing every 2 damn minutes to keep the buff up?
(Three if glyphed, but still)

[Kpoof]

Well, that's blizzards way :]

You should of course be aiming for def cap as a new tank with low HP, but keep in mind that if you are with a healer that has atleast decent gear, you won't have any trouble. I usually tank everything in my DPS gear (for faster heroics except for the 3 ICC ones), if the healer doesn't ask me to put on my tank gear.

Using your CDs (since you are frost, you've got the sexy unbreakable armor) in well timed pulls with alot of mobs won't be any trouble. By the time you get to the raid parts, you'll have enough gear (and you'll puke on heroic emblem farming after that)

So yeah, 2 of those 3 trinkets are nice. The Glyph of blabla trinket would be a better choice practically due to the GS part, since you most likely won't get into any group with running with a 200 trinket. Experienced this today on my alt for icc25 -.- main has around 6k, alt has 5.2k. Dude whispers and says "what's your GS?", and I reply "5200, kingslayer 25 man on main aswell, can link if you want.". Reply: "No sorry, too low GS, mages need high GS to do good dps sry k."

Bottom line, get black heart and glyph, you'll live a happier DK life!

[Evoic]

..........Dude whispers and says "what's your GS?", and I reply "5200, kingslayer 25 man on main aswell, can link if you want.". Reply: "No sorry, too low GS, mages need high GS to do good dps sry k."

Bottom line, get black heart and glyph, you'll live a happier DK life!

Drag that person through the screen and punch him in the Jimmy for being a nonsensical farktard.

[Shelly]

Which would be a perfect segway for me to ask why the HELL do we have to refresh this thing every 2 damn minutes to keep the buff up?
(Three if glyphed, but still)

Spoken like someone who's never played a warrior and didn't play a paladin pre-LK.

Anyway, I think your line of reasoning is right where it needs to be. Happy tanking, hope to see you on the circuit.

[Evoic]

Spoken like someone who's never played a warrior and didn't play a paladin pre-LK.

Anyway, I think your line of reasoning is right where it needs to be. Happy tanking, hope to see you on the circuit.

I started playing right after Vanilla.
Don't think for a SECOND that I don't remember constantly having to re-seal, constantly having to rebuff might, and praying to god that a 25 man guild would let me be their one "token" Ret pally......

I'm simply spoiled now, that's all.
Everyone else gets their never-ending buffs, would it really kill them to give horn at least a 10 minute refresh time?
They're just doing it to be petty because the class started out so ridiculously OP.....I can feel it.

[Twistedrunes]

The one thing that people didn't mention and has been bugging me for months.

USE SLOW DPS WEAPONS. EVEN FOR TANKING! Best early on bets are Nighttime and Black Icicle from H:FoS and H:HoR respectively. Yes they have agility. More dodge for you. Our ability damage is calculated from the DPS rating. put the better of your two weapons in MH obviously. I hate seeing Frost Tanks using fast tank weapons and then get pissed off when I try and let them know what they need to be going for. I'm sick and tired of the stigma that Frost Tanks suck because most of them don't know how to gear.

[Saul]

Which would be a perfect segway for me to ask why the HELL do we have to refresh this thing every 2 damn minutes to keep the buff up?
(Three if glyphed, but still)

1) Segue.

2) Your main reason for spamming HoW is Runic Power.

[Sidonis]

Which would be a perfect segway for me to ask why the HELL do we have to refresh this thing every 2 damn minutes to keep the buff up?
(Three if glyphed, but still)

At least you get RP out of it.

Battle Shout -costs- 10 rage.

[Cheezee]

You can always glyph it to 3 minutes. It's not like there's a better minor glyph out there.

[Sidonis]

The one thing that people didn't mention and has been bugging me for months.

USE SLOW DPS WEAPONS. EVEN FOR TANKING! Best early on bets are Nighttime and Black Icicle from H:FoS and H:HoR respectively. Yes they have agility. More dodge for you. Our ability damage is calculated from the DPS rating. put the better of your two weapons in MH obviously. I hate seeing Frost Tanks using fast tank weapons and then get pissed off when I try and let them know what they need to be going for. I'm sick and tired of the stigma that Frost Tanks suck because most of them don't know how to gear.

The poster is talking about -just- hitting 80. He's going to be farming badges and specific drops for a few days at the least even with instant queues, before he's comfortably farming H-HoR. While I agree with a slow DPS MH period, until he's comfortably above the def cap from getting 232/245 badge gear and any crafted gear he might be making, I'd use a tanking weapon in the offhand for the stats, and then once he's comfortably beyond def cap can do as you suggest and run double slow DPS weapons.