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    Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm
    Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler (Blue Tracker)
    We're doing our Cataclysm preview on the death knight changes later this week, but we knew one change risked overshadowing all the others, so we figured we'd go ahead and drop the proverbial Blood bomb today.

    In Cataclysm, death knights will have a dedicated tanking tree, much like the other three tank classes. That tree will be Blood.

    We’ll go into more detail in the upcoming preview, but we wanted to take the opportunity to explain the reasoning for such a big change.

    Why the about face? We actually thought the “tri tank” experiment worked out okay. We suspected there would always be a “best” tanking tree, because that’s the way these things shake out, but we hoped it would be close enough that many players could tank with their favorite tree. When we tried out this design for Wrath of the Lich King, we were using it as a test case to see if we wanted to do similar things with the warrior and paladin talent trees.

    A lot has happened since that time. We introduced the dual-spec feature, allowing players to have a tanking spec and dps spec that they could switch between. We introduced Dungeon Finder, which makes it easier to find players who want to tank, and even let players level up using a dedicated tank spec. In Cataclysm, we are introducing the concept of passive talent tree bonuses and we think that feature is a lot stronger when the talent tree has a particular focus (such as damage, tanking or healing). For example, it’s safer to give more passive damage to a tanking tree than we can a dps tree. Above all, we were just spending a lot of effort trying to balance three trees (though it was really six trees, since each tree was trying to do two things).

    It started to feel unfair to the other tank classes that we had to spend so much effort tweaking three types of DK tanks, and it even started to feel unfair to the DK that we couldn’t focus their tanking experience. One bit of feedback that really struck home was the DK players who said, essentially, “I look at the Protection tree and I’m jealous of all of the cool tools they have to help their tanking. As a DK, I have to pick and choose tanking talents from within a sea of dps talents.” Rather than have a strong focus, the trees felt a little watered down because they were trying to do so much. With Frost as a dual-wield, spell and runic power focused tree, Unholy as a disease and minion focused tree, and Blood as a self-healing, defensive cooldown, tanking tree, we think the focus of each tree is a lot clearer and cooler.

    In Cataclysm, Blood will be the death knight version of a Protection tree. It will have passive talent tree bonuses that reflect tanking. It will have tools, such as a Demo Shout equivalent, necessary for tanking. Several of the more fun tanking talents from Frost and Unholy will be moved into Blood. We will be able to revise (or even remove) clunky mechanics like Rune Strike and focus on letting DKs generate threat with their normal Blood tanking rotation.

    This is major change, and we understand it will be met with some disappointment from players who really liked the flexibility, those who appreciated the unorthodox talent tree design, or those few of you who really liked Blood dps. Nevertheless, we are convinced that this is the right change for the game.

    More exciting death knight news coming up soon in the preview.

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    oh wow
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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Finally

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    :-\

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    I can honestly say I didn't see this comming, it does make sense though.

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    At least we'll see less completely clueless dk's. Like the ones saying "frost is the tanking tree" in WOTLk, while not taking any tanking talents.

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Oh.



    Shit.




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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Oh my god. In before epic, epic QQ.

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    I'm Blood allrdy! +1 in preparing for Cata for me!
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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Quote Originally Posted by Panoramixe
    At least we'll see less completely clueless dk's. Like the ones saying "frost is the tanking tree" in WOTLk, while not taking any tanking talents.
    This. It'll be a lot easier to call out players who claim to be a "tank" but really have no clue, as evident by talent/presence/gear choices.
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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    UMGZ IM QUTING WOW

    No, seriously. I don't like this change since I prefer Frost for tanking, but I see the point and it makes sense. It will also make it a whole lot easier to balance

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    about time

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    So... will blood presence still do the same thing, and blood specced DKs tank in frost presence. Or will blood and frost presence have their effects swapped to make more sense?
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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    *Radiates happiness*



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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Come to think of it, it sounds more realistic with the self healing, even though frost sounded realistic too. :-\
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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    This is a sad day. I always had 2 different tanking specs on my dualspec, for fresh feeling and different fights.

    R.I.P. DK tanking.
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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Interesting change cant wait for the dk qq

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Well I guess part of me expected it. Would rather it had been frost as a tanking tree and DW was moved to Unholy tbh. But GC totally has a point, making a DK tank sucks talent-wise, so few tanking options and such a clanky threat system.

    This obviously means they will rework the presences ofc.

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    An excellent change, we've suffered from the "each tree for everything" and the complications it caused with balancing tank/dps/pvp ..

    while its a shame for those that enjoy frost tanking the benefits of having a dedicated tree to tanking should hopefully ease their suffering.

    I personally cant wait, I've been blood tank more than frost due to it being better most patches for raid content.
    Cant wait to see what they'll tweak talent wise .. and if they'll drop DRW for a 51pt'er thats tank based


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