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  1. #21

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    i dunno what i feel atm.

    at the same time that i want to be able to have all 3 speccs be able to do it all its true what they say.

    our tanking suffers cus the trees are so mixed and its hard to balance a tree around being good for tanking without making it overpowered for dps and actually vise versa.

    however one thing i would like to see if they only use one tree is to balance it around being able to both 2h and dualwield in it.

    but i guess this is just an improvement. the only real tanking specc since like release of ulduar has been blood so i guess i wouldn't notice anything different more than i actually get more talents useful for tanking
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  2. #22

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Whoa. Didn't expect this.

  3. #23

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    I believe this will be a welcomed change, especially since in all honesty they're gonna nerf a lot of the blood talents that bring in a ton of health.

    I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but think about it...Bloodworms is probably gonna become your "last minute" talent with a hefty cooldown. Most of the other talents will be nerfed to bring them in to more unison with warrior/druid/paladin abilities, you'll probably lose a lot of that self healing, considering it's going to be a main tanking tree, thus...overpowered self healing would be seen as ridiculous.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens, but to those of you rejoicing thinking that you're going to be soloing heroics and be at the state you were at the beginning at WotLK...you thought wrong. There will be endless QQ over the next few months, as these changes come to light. I'm going to be glad when people quote this post and say, oh hey look he was right. GL DK's...GL.
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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    This is an awesome change, although i did like frost tanking a bit better then Blood but i enjoy both tanking specs.
    Can't wait for this change to be implemented
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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    This sounds like something a high-end raid DK tank would like, but people with DK alts who don't try to min-max and just play what's fun for them will NOT like. I belong in the latter category, and am very sad to see frost tanking die.

  6. #26

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    The few of us who enjoyed blood? Blood being the top dps spec?

    Hell, I know most people loved blood and hated using the other 2 specs when blood was subpar. Now that blood is viable again, they turn it into prot.

    Lol. DKs get screwed.
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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Less flexibility is always bad, but I guess people will now stop call you a noob because you don't play the recent fotm DK tanking spec. I guess this will also affect the players who likes to level, pvp and pve as blood dps. But I acknowledge that it was stupid that DK's had 3 viable tanking specs where other tanking classes were left behind with just a single.

    Edit: And oh, I really hope Blizzard will give blood some new aoe threat abiilities (I loved howling blast).

  8. #28

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    As a DK who's been tanking as Blood since 3.0 and DPSed as Frost since 3.2 I am loving this change. I really had my doubts about how they would solve the mastery issue but this is if you ask me the perfect solution.

    \o/

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    I'm building an army of cleaning personell for cleaning the incoming DK tears. If you want to join we provide the tools:


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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    I like the change, as a Blood-DK through-and-through.

    A bit surprising, considering how the presences are aligned (which in themselves makes sense. Frost seems bulkier, of course), but talent-tree-wise, I'd say it was the best choice. Blood has had a bit of identity-problems from the start, feeling like a stronger (at times), but watered down Ret-Paladin, wanting warrior-gear and cap spellhit.

    Will be interesting to see how they'll do with the presences, but... They've sure been busy during easter! Thumbs up.

  11. #31

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Is abomination's might staying in the blood tree??

  12. #32

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    It seems like a reasonable change since blood seemed to be the best tree to go with anyways for the CD's
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  13. #33

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Kinda glad this is happening tbh, it's nice to have a set tree for tanking on my dk now, instead of debating which to go and how to make the most of spreading my talent points throughout to get the right mix. Definitely looking forward to the new threat mechanic for blood tanks, and seeing what talents we get for them.

    I'll probably get slated for this next comment, but /care tbh. Maybe we'll even see a talent to *dare I say it* equip shields xD
    Yes, I know it's all part of the dk tanking mechanic to use a 2h weapon....but in my experience, it sucks seeing a plate tanking item drop only to read the stats and see the words: "Block Value" all over it.

  14. #34

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    I have been asking and praying for this since day 1 of wotlk. For clarity's sake, for balancing's sake, and to avoid scrubs. I mean, of course DKs count a larger number of scrubs than other classes. That's how it is. Having to pick between 3 tank/pve/pvp specs didn't help.
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  15. #35

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    This is awesome! Really, the only one thing that could make me happier is removal of dual wielding from DK. I hope that the rest of changes to DK will be at least equally good. (please, please, please, remove DW from frost tree!)

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    I cannot express how much this is gonna fucking suck :'(

  17. #37

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Why aren't they tanking as frost, as originally intended anyways?
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  18. #38

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    If Blood is going to be the tank spec, then Frost and/or Unholy will be the dps spec, obviously. But what sounds really odd to me is this:
    A full tank/blood spec tank while being in frost presence
    Does that mean Frost spec will be in Unholy presence, and Unholy spec will be in Blood Presence?
    /popcorn

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    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    Exelent change! And yes, my main is in fact a DK.
    I hope they will not give every tree now the option to dual wield or use 2handers. There are way to much DWing blood and unholy "tanks" out there >_>

  20. #40

    Re: Death Knights will tank as Blood in Cataclysm

    I think a lot of people forget that pretty much dks in all specs will still be able to tank lower level content in "tank" presence. frost and unholy tanking will not die, it just won't be good enough for newest tier raiding. and the subpar tanking specs never were anyway.

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