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  1. #321

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    If discipline and holy "healing output" would be equal - as blizz says they are aiming for, then: Discipline will always, in every situation be better then holy.

    I quit the game after 5 years of playing a holy priest, the reason i quit was cause i got fed up with how casual the game became: how spamable, mindless, and casually easy everything has come. I remember a game where geting epics was actually hard, and seeing a player with epics was actually rare. Even in TBC completing heroic runs (like shattered halls) used to be a hard assignment - and you had a group of 5 who had to think before pulls, plan how to kill bosses. Eveything atm is just tank and spank, and spam heals. It doesn't matter what you spam.

    Holy fell alot behind all the healers in WoTLK, especially behind the discipline priest who does have a spamable rejuv/HL style. Now healing outputs will be equal:
    meaning: discipline will heal like holy, but will also absord damage and have the spamable shield and barrier.

    WoW started as a amazing role game, where you picked a class because of what the class gave. Now all the classes are the same, the difference: name of spell and armor.

    With the new shaman changes: all i see is the same WoTLK line: shamans are like priests but they have totems, BL and mail armor. Paladins will probably also be priests with blessings, aura's, hands, bubble and infinite mana, Druids should've been nerfed at the begining of WoTLK (i still can't believe how a druid can cast ONLY rejuv and still be uberly good and amazing), Discipline priests just spam shields and are considered SO good because of it. And holy priests: there are the ones who compete meters (which are common on mmo hi kelesti nub) and some that actually play properly. At the same time - a holy can't really compete atm on meters - set bonus, no spamable strong spell, its more of combining all together to get this.

    Very dissapointed not planing on coming back, waste since i got the invitation to test.

  2. #322

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Once again, discipline has become the overly attractive talent tree. Holy needs a holy form!

  3. #323

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Btw if someone could answer this... i didn't understand... at the end of the post it says something about dots not being cliped but just going to full duration ... but it didn't say it a the section it talked about dots.
    Our dots have the same as the Lock that it goes to full duration and it isn't cliped right?

    Cheers
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  4. #324

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Bladestorm + Lifegrip = fortehlulz!
    A fool and his money are soon parted, but not nearly as fast as a nerd and his tears.

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  5. #325

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoulis
    Btw if someone could answer this... i didn't understand... at the end of the post it says something about dots not being cliped but just going to full duration ... but it didn't say it a the section it talked about dots.
    Are dots have the same as the Lock that it goes to full duration and it isn't cliped right?

    Cheers
    Zoulis
    It is likely to be the case.

  6. #326

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Cant wait for the "Dumbest thing you've done while raiding". I accidently hit the Life Grip key instead of Greater heal on the MT who was tanking a cleave boss.

  7. #327
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    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    The mind spike looks cool. Guess it will work a bit like scorch. Not something you use in your rotation, but it's very useful in pvp, against trash/adds and while soloing. Priests wont rely much on shadow wordain either for the short nuke.

    Inner will seems very situational. Much like unholy pressence is today I guess. The good priest will often find this useful. Will separate the good and the bads.

    Leap of faith.. Not much to say. Will be GREAT in both pvp and pve. Hope that they make it a shadow or a discipline spell. Another spell to separate the good and the bad priests.

    The change to hots, dots and healing in general is also very great. I like the healing change the most. Seems like they're going back to the way healing worked in tbc and classic, where over healing actually mattered.
    I thought of going back to healing more in Cataclysm, like I did in tbc. Both the holy and the discipline changes seems to be great (Chakra, radiance and power word: barrier anyone?). If I had the chance, I would be playing all 3 specs just for PvE.

    The shadow orbs seems cool too, guess it'll work like shadow weaving.

    I was hoping for spell haste instead of spell crit for shadow passive though.

  8. #328

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Not really impressed though, lots of disc love, almost no holy love, especially if you compare to for example shamans and where's the compensation for the nerfs to poh/coh?

    I like disc in pve but this way I might as well start rerolling to a hybrid if i want to stay a raidhealer, its too soon to judge but the signs arent very good so im praying for at least a new spell thats usefull (seeing as shammies got a coh style spell i wouldnt mind to get a chainheal like spell)

  9. #329

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Quote Originally Posted by Herecius
    Life Grip! Different types of shields! An actual Power Word: Barrier! All sound like good, logical evolution of priests imo. Here's hoping that Leap of Faith doesn't end up something that's dropped halfway through the beta for something far less interesting.
    I can already picture mongs screwing with you in pvp and pulling you out of your enemies way just to be a douche.
    While it has potential and makes sense as a priest spell, it would make sense if it required the target to be at low health before it could work, below 50% atleast.

  10. #330

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Life Grip sounds so exploitable.

    "Hey, come watch me jump off this cliff"
    *Jump, Levitate, Life Grip*
    "See you at the bottom!"

  11. #331

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Life Grip is a bad idea. But give it to a kid and you have yourself an annoyance.

  12. #332

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    life grip does sounds pretty awesome, but I smell nerfs.

  13. #333

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Quote Originally Posted by FuriousFox
    Life Grip sounds so exploitable.

    "Hey, come watch me jump off this cliff"
    *Jump, Levitate, Life Grip*
    "See you at the bottom!"
    It. wont. work.

    Read. the. rest. of. the. thread.

    Please?
    As for prot... haha losers he dmg needs a nerf with the intercept shield bash wtf silence crit a clothie like a mofo.
    Wow.

  14. #334

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Late post but ist shitloads to read here:P

    Quote Originally Posted by Requiembcn
    Raiding Shadow Priest here:
    Ok...

    Quote Originally Posted by Requiembcn

    What the SP gets: Mind Spike lvl 81. just LAME:
    "Spamming Mind Spike will do about as much damage as casting Mind Flay on a target afflicted with Shadow Word: Pain."
    With 1.5 secs cast, way faster than Mind Flay, ther SP is loosing his ultra-cool-facemelter in favor of Mind Spike (can't see a reason to use Mind Flay now, except for the porpouse of renewing SW:P on target) .
    "Mind Spike" is a spell that I (if not all raiding SPriests) have wanted for ages.
    They also mention that "Mind Spike" will not be in your "static" DPS rotation. It will be a "go to spell" when you need to kill an add fast (Bone Spikes on Marrowgar for example).


    Quote Originally Posted by Requiembcn
    Misery goes : Alright Blizzard, better increase our DPS or else... who will want a SP in their raid setup?, with all our support abilities already in other classes...
    You should be ontop of all damage meters... Might have a fight with rogues but you should be there... ... Isnt that reason enough?


    Anyways... Alot will change so i dont see why ppl go all "OHHH I WANT NOW... GRIP PPL OVER EDGES HIHI I'M SO EEEVUUUULLL"... first of all... as a milion posts already say... wont work... Then we got the fun fact that this is a spell that drags FRIENDLY targets... Why whould you want to kill a friendly target? No wonder ppl lose BGs if ur thinking of killing your own team-mates...

    Still hoping for a DPS CD, will see...


    Libi out.







  15. #335
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    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobrajin
    Life Grip is a bad idea. But give it to a kid and you have yourself an annoyance.
    It wouldn't bother me so much if they didn't make a showcase out of it as if it's a super useful class-defining ability; it's a freakin' gimmick ability and (possibly) one that will be used to annoy other players.

    This is not what I expected from a class review/overall.

  16. #336

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    ZOMG PW:Barrier and Leap of Faith OM NOM NOM NOM NOM.
    Inner will sounds random though, when will it ever be better than +SP from Inner Fire? And I hope that bigger, more expensive shield is implemented.
    But will Disc priests want spirit now? and does that mean that our icc gear won't last long at all?
    Anal jokes will never get old.

  17. #337

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Quote Originally Posted by dscherli
    ZOMG PW:Barrier and Leap of Faith OM NOM NOM NOM NOM.
    Inner will sounds random though, when will it ever be better than +SP from Inner Fire? And I hope that bigger, more expensive shield is implemented.
    But will Disc priests want spirit now? and does that mean that our icc gear won't last long at all?
    They are completely redoing ALL gear in Cata, so i bet you see lots of ICC gear redone to so that its still useful.
    As for prot... haha losers he dmg needs a nerf with the intercept shield bash wtf silence crit a clothie like a mofo.
    Wow.

  18. #338

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    Wow..

    No one so far has voiced the concern which we [b]already have, namely a very short cast Direct Damage spell clipping below the GCD.
    Mind Spike does nothing to fix this issue with the 1.5s cast.
    It needs to get to 2.5s cast with talents for reduction, or ludiciously outperform Mind Flay in damage/scaling.

    Not to forget, the fact that we were promised a nuke, not another freakin' ramp-up spell.'

    [Edit after reviewing:] Sure, I'd like "burn" button, but I'll still lay down a VT for the extra ticks (it hits like a truck), and for that part, what I'm hoping for is an actual C/D.
    As opposed to the retarded Shadowfiend..
    Quote Originally Posted by Sl
    So you just see mages running up to the boss going "AGGHHH"
    and everyone else being like, "What.. what are you doing?"
    "CDS UP BRO DONT WORRY, AHHHPEWPEWPEPEW"

  19. #339

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    i am so disappointed with these lame fucking changes.i dont give a shit for the grip and the sp boost,holy priest is gonna be the worst healer in this damn expansion by far...

  20. #340

    Re: Cataclysm Class Preview: Priest

    "Life Grip" = same faction griefing.

    ... I can't wait. ;D

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