How ToC could have been awesome

[Totle]

Personally, I thought the place was fun. No dumb trash to rifle through, and yeah, the scenery was bland and redundant, but that was minor all in all.

Idea:

ToC starts out with a jousting boss (they could tweak it to make it more interesting... different types of horses like with Occulus), then Faction Champs. Then we'd have the twin valkyr attack (not be part of the tournament). At this point, the Argent Crusade, rather than being complete scrubs, would send some story character along (or Tirion himself) to aid us. Finally we get them down, and when they die, they blow up the arena which drops us straight down...

the Nerubian kingdom. Here we'd fight our way through tunnels fighting trash and bosses. There would be three more bosses-

Big Evil Spider of Doom (name pending)
Basically, think of the LK fight in HoR, except every so often, we had to stop and fight the boss by attacking one of his legs and crippling him. Then we'd run away. Unfortunately, in our haste to run away we end up going deeper into the tunnels.

Here we would fight more trash and and face not just any old nerubians, but nerubians corrupted by Yogg Saron - so with extra tentacles and such. Eventually we'd face a big old faceless one (or a forgotten one maybe). When he dies, he whips out a tentacle that breaks open a wall revealing a breeze of fresh air (so told by the story character who does like 200 dps despawns when everyone's dead). Aha! This must lead us outside.

As we follow the tunnel towards the surface, we encounter a corrupted Anubarak with tentacles and extra-spider-ness to boot. We fight him and finish him off. Tada!

I'm kinda rushed to get into the fight details, but this way we could have had a spider raid and still had your tourny...

Just my two cents.

[Spitfyre]

Still seems watered down, really one of my biggest criticisms of ToC was the fact that they used Anub, imo Anub should have been given his own raid within Azjol Nerub.

[destructard]

This would have made it more interesting for sure, but you kinda combined the 5 man with the raid, then added your stuff. And i happen
to love ToC, with the pvp-like champs, and the interesting 3-boss-1-encounter thing with beasts, it is my favorite raid to date.

[Deleted]

ToC and awesome do not belong in the same sentence. Even if could is there.

[Sellas]

In the tunnels they should have the bosses been N Beasts and LJ. Idk

[mogulkhan]

no more fucking vehicle fights please no

[yaij9841]

Still seems watered down, really one of my biggest criticisms of ToC was the fact that they used Anub, imo Anub should have been given his own raid within Azjol Nerub.

weren't we technically in Azjol nerub when we fought him?

[Spitfyre]

weren't we technically in Azjol nerub when we fought him?

Still seems watered down, really one of my biggest criticisms of ToC was the fact that they used Anub, imo Anub should have been given his own raid within Azjol Nerub.

[Hethor]

In the tunnels they should have the bosses been N Beasts and LJ. Idk

You should know that Lord J. is a summon that went wrong.. right?

[Julex]

weren't we technically in Azjol nerub when we fought him?

Most likely, as the Nerubian Empire is kinda freakin' huge and goes from BT all the way up to Icecrown.

[seam]

I disagree with almost everyone about ToC.

Yes, I hated it too, but not because the fights. The fights were interesting and unique. They really were.

The main issue (In my mind) was the one room setting. That and the 'clear it 4 times a week per toon!'

[muffinboy]

Crusader was the uselessest raid (my opinion) I would like to see wyrkul raid or Nerubian empire

[Shiira]

Toc could have been better if it wasn't a hastily designed piece of trash designed to fill the gap between the only good raid instances of the expansion.

[Dangg]

The main issue (In my mind) was the one room setting. That and the 'clear it 4 times a week per toon!'

This.

[Irony]

It was 5 bosses. With no trash, and was the only raid during 3.2. That was the problem.

[seam]

It was 5 bosses. With no trash, and was the only raid during 3.2. That was the problem.

Don't spit out lies please.

You had Onyxia too!!!!!

/joke

[Garots]

Well, we are in 3..3-Catyclysm. Enough whining about past patches and let's transfer this good vibe to the future patches.


/thread

[Gagdush]

Big Evil Spider of Doom

Best name of a boss ever.

[Caradinist]

Honestly, with the shit they pulled in Ulduar, everyone's expectations were high for the next upcoming raid.

They just needed to be reminded that ICC was taking longer, and they didn't want an expansion where the main villain was going to die in such a short amount of time (like Black Temple).

[Velnica]

ToC is fine how it is, could've been a bit more dynamic though like with jousting (as annoying as that may be) or more trash before you hit Anub. Poor Anub got demoted real hard since his days in WC3...