Cataclysm Class Preview: Paladin

[simon556]

this is just to many nerfs to holy paladin if this goes live none will want a holy paladin in either raid nor arena.

[rknDA1337]

Decent spells, but nothing movement-wise, also another reason to go protret in pvp instead of retri zZZz. I'm definitely staying with my warrior.

[Tortious]

WOO! Guardian of the Ancient Kings looks amazing! I don't care what the other changes are! Though, I am quite excited about the prospect of my shockadin spec!

[Xeraluin]

if holy shock will still have damage i'm pretty pleased, and please let drusader strike upgrade be something good for us poor rets

[Vete]

I was prepared for the worse. All I feel now is relief, /phew

[badge]

No More bubble hearth?

[Sacris]

Lol...

They nerfed all the defensive capabilties of ret to the ground and gave us no tools in replace to kill a healer unlike prot who have a silence now and will receive an instant interrupt.

Thx for nothing...again.

[Stanton]

Ok i can live with these changes. I'm just hoping i can get far enough into holy on my prot pally to get my instant cleanse back.
AOE blind ftw

I'm liking the Guardian of Ancient Kings too

[Robinhoodexe]

Lowering duration of divine shield ;D

looks nice tho

[Altam]

So do I understand correctly that when pally's crit with a heal, they will heal for more???

Wow impressive changes! ???

[thetaurenrogue]

I cant believe anyone that plays ret or holy is happy about this class unless they are just amazed by the shiny pet.

[Beyz]

Vague info is vague ppl, stop whining about class balance until we get some actual testing of the content.

[xinus]

Thoroughly disappointed. Where is our eyeopening change? Mages get burnout/ a bloodlust type of ability, prietst might get the Leap of Faith ability... and we get essentially a gargoyle??? I mean, we lose the magic removal of cleanse and they're talking about nerfing bubble (all pvp based) and ret doesn't even get a specific new ability. I feel like blizz is trying to say "WE DONT LIKE RET PALLYS"........... oh wait, they've been saying that for years.

I waitied for this? It seems like the least thought out update, while taking the longest to create.

[Zebraz]

Not as exiting as i expected, but well hopefully there will be less pallies around and that means more raid spots for my pally alt -_^

[Winlol]

"Beacon of Light will be changed to work with Flash of Light. We like the ability, but want paladins to use it intelligently and not be constantly healing for twice as much."

Does this mean that Beacon will be a proc off of Flash of Light? As in you need to spam Flash to proc a beacon, and then you can start taking advantage of the double healing?

[Arcano]

So Holy shock will no longer do damage if used on a target boo i wanted another key to press as ret

[SharQueDo]

I KNEW they were going to save the best for the last! ;D

BB Druid, WB Paladin!

[conscript]

What if paladin is hybrid specced? (30/30/0 for example) What will the guardian do?

I believe that the Guardian will become hostile and one shot the Paladin for being an idiot.

[Mysta]

So... ret gets nothing until 85 (just nerfed with cleanse) or am Im missing something?

Well they'll be changing Crusader strike or improving it(Since it's a base ability now)

Also you get Holy Shock:P Andddd as always they said that's not everything...


My opinion on the radiating heals. Make it a buff that you activate, and for the next 6 seconds all healing you do is put into a buff on you, and 6 seconds afterwords you pulse out that much in healing again, but aoe. WIN!

[Synthaxx]

I'm going to start gearing my lock up again... Stopped with Togc and haven't really touched ICC... Looks like its time to start.

Mine already is geared for ICC25.
Thing is, i do like those new abilities, particularly the HOLY MOTHERF***ING MEGAZOID SUMMON ability. I like Holy Shock being available to me as Prot for PvP (i'm hoping it's still instant) since it's usable in 2 ways. I like CS becoming available to all. I like the blessing streamline. I like SS being a 30 min buff. I like Holy Shield not having charges. I like an AoE-HoT heal that's not talented and doesn't have a cast time. It all sounds so good. But....

What i don't like is that they've not addressed the issues they know need fixing. Not even mentioned them. Well, actually, looking closer, it did get a small part with "In addition, we want to add to this spec more PvP utility" in the Retribution bullet in New Talents. However, this doesn't solve the prot issue of interupts in PvE, fixing Avenger's Shield for PvE casters. I'm also not so keen on this summon sounding like a Robot Val'kyr that shoots lazerbeams out of it's groin, that instead of healing or damaging, it's gonna absorb damage instead... Yay. I really need to absorb another 50K damage when my SS already absorbs about 7K damage every 6 seconds.

Unless this creature thing will be the interrupter (i'm guessing that'd mean autocast with no pet bar) and slows opponents, then i just don't see us being that much different. I'm not unhappy with the class at all. What i am unhappy with is that they've not actually mentioned a much-needed interrupt for all specs (unless CS will have it, but i doubt that), and a proper distance-closer (and a change to AS to go along with it).

This level 81 ability MIGHT be the interrupt and distance closer (on bosses, it simply interrupts), depending on range (heh, imagine a 50000 yard range :P). Actually, this ability could turn out interesting.