lol'd 8)Originally Posted by Zweistein
lol'd 8)Originally Posted by Zweistein
Blizzard is turning 10/25 man lockdown into one.JUST GREAT Iam working hard and anything isnt better after some time with my gf by raiding. In Cataclysm we will be raiding 1 day in week? Do you mean this serious? Okey if you do this prepare to create minimally 5 long and hardcore raids cause if you create any 2 stupid raids with 1 lock each. I think maybe 50% of all people will stop playing. Everybody was anger from Normal/heroic lockdown and now this.What next? Planes,F1 racing or Dung+raid same lockdown?
Originally Posted by Mdi
You get more badges...a lot of you people are not thinking outside the box or looking in between the lines...
Also EVERYONE is applying this new raid rule to already made raids....you can't take something they plan to do and apply it to something they already have done...what's not to say they will remove aspect to new raids such as *easier defile control* or that sort of thing?
More people will be in the raid, so the loot, like now, will be proportional to the amount of people in the raid (2 pieces in 10 = 5 pieces in 25) and I like the way you added "possibly". We only know what they have said, and people are reacting to such...Originally Posted by evilgnomey
Blizzard better fix this fast before 25s become obsolete!!
Yes there is.Originally Posted by Epicadin
More badges so you will get loot quicker.
Why is this not enough?
Refresh the first page and you will see that they haven't decided on the number of drops yet.Originally Posted by Epicadin
Lets see if we can reach 100 pages of clusterwhine tonight!
10 uniclass pug raid > 15 guild roster raid > 33 guild roster raid
As to the people wondering why people bitch and complain then still play for years and years.
OT: I think it could be a complete disaster but you never know, it could turn out to be decent.
you do realize this is how its been ever since? the only difference now is blizz stoped creating any 10 man content at all and instead did that dull 10-men version thing of the 25-men content? and now, to take it further (instead of, say, going back and creating seperate, real 10-men content again) they make 25-men-raids worthless. grats lol thats awesome (if you don't play the game)Originally Posted by Calaba
Gold is not even a concern.Originally Posted by skaarrj
Maybe not to you.Originally Posted by Smolderthorn
Exactly. Ive already said im done for cataclysm but this is just sad. We have so many AWFUL 10 player guilds on our server that attempt to boast the largest epeens around. (Lol Boulderfist-US). In fact 90% of the guilds on our server cant progress in 25 player content for one simple reason.Originally Posted by Ciandrawr
The raid leaders screwed it up. Raid comp, caused/promoted drama, poor loot decisions and people just leave after crap like that and join awful guilds that are bound to have the same issues.
Btw does this mean I can farm the new shadowmourne equiv in 10 player content? /laugh.
OOM healers or unskilled healers will be a more likely cause of a wipe in Cata than they are nowdays. And since the burst on tanks is removed, the "fast reaction to pop a Last Stand within 1 second after suddenly getting under 10%" will no longer work. The damage that tanks take will be scaled with the amount of healing they are supposed to recieve in 10 or 25. Thus, they will still need to pop their cooldowns for better damage reduction. If once in a period of time the boss begins to deal 3 times more damage than he normally does, that will be the time to pop a cooldown, no matter if it is 10 or 25.Basically as you say, the only way a tank should die in 10 man is .... sleepy healers or OOM healers.
in 25 man there can be so many more ways.
But honestly, I still admit that in 25 man tanking will probably be more interesting and difficult. I am just saying that you are making this more dramatic than it actually is.
If 10mans and 25mans share lockout they should reset every 4 days to keep players busy with the content.
Honestly, if they do this what is the point of 25 mans any more? Same loot, but just less quantity of it, same lock out period, and they'll aparently be about the same difficulty. I really have mixed feelings about this, but I have a feeling its going to be bad, especially for some classes, because they aren't as ideal in a 10 man set-up.
I thought some of the cata changes would be ify, but I knew they would work out fine.....But this....This is going to hurt PVE in WOW a lot I think. I seriously hope they decide not to do this.
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wait i'm confused, are you in support of this? cuz your ideas sound pretty badOriginally Posted by evilgnomey
People are complaining about how 25 main raiding will become obsolete because you'll get same loot as 10 man etc but I thought people were doing 25 mans for fun instead of loot. "it's waaay more epic with 25 man than with 10 etc etc"