Originally Posted by
harky
That's part of the problem. You need not only a strong understanding of Discipline, but also of the specific fight mechanics involved. You need to know how the Priest is healing, who the Priest is healing and what the Priest is using to heal. Because the combat log does not allow this to be displayed accurately in any case, it's very hard to quantify how accurate a meter is.
Some examples in VoA when PW:S spamming:
Archavon- Will be completely inaccurate. At best 20% accurate. Will depend completely on the meter being run how inaccurate it is.
Emalon- You can expect this to be 60-70% correct.
Koralon- This will be in the 40-60% correct range.
Toravon- This will be in the 80%+ range.
However, that's a very loose way to look at it and it assumes that the Priest is not casting anything except PW:S and is never over-writing PW:S.
Same examples, but this time playing properly:
Archavon- Will not be mildly accurate in terms of absorb amount, but the absorb sources will be completely incorrect. Divine Aegis will be your top absorb and most likely top healing source.
Emalon- This too will be somewhat more accurate, but only in terms of absorb amount. Tell melee to stay in and shield them and the tanks only. Absorbs will be 15-20% of your healing and perhaps 80% accurate.
Koralon- Same story here, the absolute value will be more accurate, but the sources will be less accurate.
Toravon- Here it will be about the same as before, but will most likely be considered less accurate because you will use heals occasionally making the accuracy of the absolute value the same, but the sources less accurate.
Basically if you're using primarily PW:S spam the healing sources listed will be more accurate, but the overall absorb amount will be less accurate. The more AOE damage there is the more accurate the absolute value will be, but the less accurate the sources will be. Using more healing spells will further reduce how accurate the sources of healing are.
That's the issue though, people who do understand this issue also understand that it's almost impossible to analyze. The combat log prevents us from getting an accurate view of both absorb sources, targets, etc. We can make assumptions based on fights, but that's as far as it goes.
Here's what it boils down to and also why people think I don't like Discipline: Fights with very high margins of error on absorbs are due to fight mechanics not favoring an absorb mechanic with a 15 second per target cooldown. Since Discipline is only competitive when they can use PW:S for ~75% of their healing this means that any fight where the margin of error exceeds 25% is not a competitive fight for Discipline. Essentially any fight where Shield spam is not optimal for at least 65% of the fight is a bad fight for Disc. This is because Discipline's absorbs when healing normally function as about 20% of their healing, so if you can PW:S spam for 65% of the fight then your other absorbs will compensate when this isn't possible.
I've provided a list in the past of ICC fights where this is the case, but people typically won't like seeing what that list entails. Discipline is competitive on Marrowgar, Princes, Festergut and LK in normal modes and Saurfang, Rotface, Putricide in hard. Disc is extremely good on LK-H, which stands alone as Discipline's 'big fight'. If you consider 'competitive' being better than Holy, then that only occurs on Princes is normal (due to having no raid damage to heal), and Rotface, Princes and LK on Hard. In all Disc is competitive with the other healers on 8/24 fights in ICC normal and hard and better than Holy in 4/24 fights. Will people accept that? No, but it is what it is. As soon as Discipline gets to a fight where other spells exceed the value of PW:S, Discipline falls behind. This means that when AOE damage is very high, or very low that Discipline does poorly.