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    PvP glyphs for ret?

    What are the usual pvp glyphs for a ret paladin?

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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    As a guess, Glyph of Judgement, Glyph of Seal of Righteousness and Glyph of Salvation.

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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    Depends. Usually you will have Judgement and SoR, unless you are a BG hero and use SoC, in which case you'd use SoC glyph.

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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    So wait, im sorry. Ive been out of the pvp loop for a long time. SoR is now the arena seal to use?

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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryoten
    So wait, im sorry. Ive been out of the pvp loop for a long time. SoR is now the arena seal to use?
    Yes. It has the best burst and the least CC-breaking ability of it's counterparts (SoC and SoCorr).

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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardolan
    As a guess, Glyph of Judgement, Glyph of Seal of Righteousness and Glyph of Salvation.
    This. You could switch out Salv for Exo, but it's not advised as we're pretty easily blown up after bubble in on CD. Even if you want to be a "BG hero" as Ronark put it you would still use the same glyphs with SoC as you shouldn't be having mana issues in PvP in general unless you fight like an entire team of mages and disc priests.
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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Judicium
    This. You could switch out Salv for Exo, but it's not advised as we're pretty easily blown up after bubble in on CD. Even if you want to be a "BG hero" as Ronark put it you would still use the same glyphs with SoC as you shouldn't be having mana issues in PvP in general unless you fight like an entire team of mages and disc priests.
    Why would you glyph for SoR if your not using it ??? ??? ???
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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serryn
    Why would you glyph for SoR if your not using it ??? ??? ???
    Good catch. If you wanted to use SoC you would use Judgement, Salv, Exo. Thanks again for catching that.
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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    Arena: Gylph of Judg, Sor and Salv. In case you play a comp where you are rarely focused or you just cant seem to die for some reason or you dont have 2nd dispeller ( priest, holadin,), switching salv for instant fear ( turn evil) would be a good idea because of the ret vulnerability to lock's cc ( when playing ret hunt resto druid i prefer using turn evil gylph just for that reason).
    Also would be best if you use glyph of sense undead and might as minor glyphs, you never know when a chance might turn up to rebuff after being dispelled and greater bom costs more mana then normal one. As for glyph of sense undead, its doesnt really do a lot, but can sometimes help against dk's and in arena every % of hp can matter.

    BG's:
    Sor would still be my choice here, you should go with either sor glyph or soc one, depends what you are using, salv instead of turn evil ( if you are using it ) and use LoH for 3'rd minor glyph

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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    Does this mean for Arena builds, you want to sink 5 points into seals of the pure? And if so, whats does the typical arena pvp build look like?

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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryoten
    Does this mean for Arena builds, you want to sink 5 points into seals of the pure? And if so, whats does the typical arena pvp build look like?
    depend on the team composition, just like the glyph choice
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    Re: PvP glyphs for ret?

    As nien put it it all depends on your team comp. If you are playing a cleave team then you don't want to sink 5 points into sotp, instead put some extra points into prot for divine guardian & improved righteous fury for the extra mitigation. On a cleave team you will also use the glyphs of seal of command, judgment and salvation as well.

    If your not playing on a cleave team you will want to use 5 points in seals of the pure though and change the glyph of seal of command for the glyph seal of righteousness. This will give you higher single target burst and be better if your team uses allot of cc because you wont be accidentally breaking it as easy.

    Or there is the option of going protribution, this is a spec that uses the majority of its points in prot & uses ret gear. This type of spec tends to have almost the same lvl of burst but it has allot better offensive utility for fighting casters and can withstand insane amounts of damage due to all the damage reduction in the prot tree that will stack with resilience. The only down side to protribution is it lacks allot of the self healing ability that ret has and can run oom if you do not play it well, if done right however you will tear shit up.
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