Quick question about hit/exp cap

[RoughJustice]

Currently just got back on wow. And I have 174 hit rating and 13 expertise (with SoV glyph). And I read that 263 is the cap for hit and 23 for expertise (human). So I'm pretty far off from those. Should I gem for them? Or continue doing pure str

[Evilution]

I recall that as long as you are that far from removing yer miss/dodge-risk the
biggest dps-gain is to get the hit and exp you need to avoid those misses/dodges.
I think hit goes before exp tho if you have to choose, since judgements cant be dodged.
And you can get away with being just under exp, but you never want to be below hit-cap.
Ret is just my questing/offspec so im not 100%... but that´s what i go after when gearing.

[Copain]

Pretty sure if you're not at the Hit cap, which you need, you should get it.

And Before some Ret comes bragging to me about how he's a bit below it and he's doing great and all, good for you.

[pcx226]

always be AT hit cap. PERIOD. no questions asked. do w/e it takes.
NEVER be above hit cap if you can help it.
expertise is pretty meh. i have 1 piece of expertise gear from my 4set. thats it. all i'm getting. 21 expertise is enough. no real need to hit the cap.

[Ronark]

And Before some Ret comes bragging to me about how he's a bit below it and he's doing great and all, good for you.

Im doing fine, and Im under the (spell) hit cap

Also, check here:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/class-pa...ins-%283-2%29/

[RoughJustice]

I got some new legs and am up to 245 hit now. So question is do I gem once or twice for hit? Once would be 255 and twice 265. Would being 2 above the cap be worse than 8 under?

[Ronark]

I got some new legs and am up to 245 hit now. So question is do I gem once or twice for hit? Once would be 255 and twice 265. Would being 2 above the cap be worse than 8 under?

Umm there is a +20 Hit gem you know.

[DaGhostDS]

Umm there is a +20 Hit gem you know.

/slap
/bad

str/hit in yellow socket with str bonus

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/slap
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str/hit in yellow socket with str bonus

this is true, but why use 2 gems if 1 is enough?

i've calculated it. i was in his exact same problem a few weeks back, when i got my cloak. the difference between 2 STR/hit gems or 1 STR gem and 1 hit gem was *drumroll* 4 DPS. now, for a min-maxer, that might be enough to regem, but for the average DPS paladin, 4 DPS is less than what skill can make up for.

edit: what i mean by this, is that that 4 DPS difference is less than what you can gain by reacting faster to your 2PT10, or even get an extra crit.

[Ronark]

/slap
/bad

str/hit in yellow socket with str bonus

Say you have Red socket and Yellow socket, with a +5 STR bonus.

You could put 2 str/hit gems in both, and come out with 25 str and 20 hit.
You could put 1 str gem in the red socket and 1 hit gem in the yellow socket, and come out with 25 str and 20 hit.

[DaGhostDS]

Say you have Red socket and Yellow socket, with a +5 STR bonus.

You could put 2 str/hit gems in both, and come out with 25 str and 20 hit.
You could put 1 str gem in the red socket and 1 hit gem in the yellow socket, and come out with 25 str and 20 hit.

+5 str bonus? impair strenght bonus, not sure those exist

20str in the red slot
str/crit in the yellow or str/hit if undercap

remplacing crit by hit is good, remplacing str by hit is not ideal and very much bad :-\

this is true, but why use 2 gems if 1 is enough?

i've calculated it. i was in his exact same problem a few weeks back, when i got my cloak. the difference between 2 STR/hit gems or 1 STR gem and 1 hit gem was *drumroll* 4 DPS. now, for a min-maxer, that might be enough to regem, but for the average DPS paladin, 4 DPS is less than what skill can make up for.

edit: what i mean by this, is that that 4 DPS difference is less than what you can gain by reacting faster to your 2PT10, or even get an extra crit.

learning it right the 1st time is better then not knowing it until too late :P

[Ronark]

+5 str bonus? impair strenght bonus, not sure those exist

20str in the red slot
str/crit in the yellow or str/hit if undercap

Its the same math either way if you are 20 under the hit cap, which was the point I was trying to make.

1/2X + 1/2Y + 1/2X + 1/2Y = X + Y

[Copain]

Don't you know, Ronark? You should put the pro's gem in your socket.


Even if it's random and pointless and you might come out weaker.

Do it.