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    How far does your server's average ICC PUG get to?

    Skullcrusher EU

    ICC10 - most PUGs will do 6/12 as standard. Slightly better and more co-ordinated ones will manage Putricide and VDW. If a PUG kills BP and BQ then you've gotten yourself a pretty nice run. Never killed Sindragosa without being in a semiguildrun and killing Lich King is unheard of.

    25 man is much more boring, most will kill Saurfang or wipe on Marrowgar due to not meeting the high (by comparison) tank healing requirements. Any PUG which kills festergut or rotface is very rare.

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    Thaurissan - US
    Usually get about 8/9 in 10m, with H lootship and Rotface
    Generall 7 for 25 (fester, rot, lootwalker) with H lootship

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    The average trade pug on my server will get around 6/12 in ten or 4/12 in 25, a leftovers pug or a well put together trade pug can generally do 10/12 on ten or 9/12 25.


    Edit: the primary GDKP on my server is 12/12 normal and 6/12 HMs on 25.
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    Destromath EU

    ICC10 : Bad groups get 4-5/12, if you find a nice one you may get 10 or 11/12, but most are gonna get 6-7/12

    ICC25: Again, the bad groups only get 3-4 Bosses, better pugs may get 7-8/12 (festergut, rotface & dreamwalker + blood princes) but the last few weeks i'v had a semi pug (had been a pug, but the same ppl keep running ICC only with a few replacements, so we get like 9-10/12, but we're gonna get LK this or the next id

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    Frostmane EU

    Most pugs get to do 4/12 in both 10 and 25. It's depressing.

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    Magtheridon-US

    trade chat advertises "going 6/12 or more" for 25mans, typical 10man true pugs will maybe go 7-9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhydian
    Frostmane EU

    Most pugs get to do 4/12 in both 10 and 25. It's depressing.
    I feel sorry for you
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    Re: How far does your server's average ICC PUG get to?

    Stormrage - US

    ICC10: 8/12-12/12 with some HMs. Pug quality is pretty decent on 10s but it depends on the days.

    ICC25:6/12-12/12. Not easy to see a full clear, and I don't think there are any HM's... Well except for lootship. There are a nice chunk of GDKP runs that do 8-9/12. Full clears again, aren't very common, you do see some but normally involve guilds.

    Edit: On my old server, Silvermoon, no pugs got past 4/12 on 25 -.- And on 10... Let me see... Well, never past 8/12... Yea it was sad too.
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    Destromath-US, one organized pug with some guildies of mine and other players around the server is 7/12 heroic ICC with a 12/12 clear in 25man, I'm quite new to the server so not sure on 10man's stance but i hear alot of 12/12 kills going about from pugs.

    There are other organized pugs on different days that do quite alot too if I'm not mistaken.

    Edit: Adding link to progression list for the non-beleivers.
    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...id=1&pageNo=43

    Scroll down, they call themselve's destropug.

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    Re: How far does your server's average ICC PUG get to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhydian
    Frostmane EU

    Most pugs get to do 4/12 in both 10 and 25. It's depressing.
    That must be horde side, or really crappy pugs. I usually get a lot further on Alliance.

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    Area 52-- most can clear the first 6 and valithria and blood prince council, a few can get all the way to lich king, but stop there.
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    Tarren Mill - EU, Horde
    typical trade pug gets 4/12 25man and 4-6/12 10man
    In a well made pug u can kill LK in 10man with 5 heroics. thats how i got kingslayer.
    There is also a 25man pug every saturday that gets to 11/12 or 12/12 with hc marrowgar , lewtship and rotface.

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    11/12 - Blackrock US
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    Quote Originally Posted by janfrederick
    That must be horde side, or really crappy pugs. I usually get a lot further on Alliance.
    Nope, alliance side. I catch the shittiest pugs I swear.

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    Blackmoore-EU Alliance
    10 Man all normal they get to 10/12 these days (but that a given it´s easier to get into a 25-Man ICC raid these day for me then into an 10man..., yes 9/10 PuGs here only take people with atleast 9/12 exp 5.7k+ fail score [at times even as high as 5.9k+] and 5h time and yes sadly I am serious >.>, good luck getting into raiding without having a Guild, heck it´s even the same if Marrowgar is the weekly)
    10 Man HM only, these go 5-6/12
    25 Mans 6/12 on average
    25 Man HMs, ye no.

    In general you wont get into ICC without having exp (ye fuck my realm.)

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    We did 12/12 last night on Crushridge.

    In a pug of course.

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    Crushridge US

    10m usually 6-9, ones I lead usually 8 or 9.

    25m almost always 4/12, not because they are incapable of more though, someone usually just leaves after saurfang and nobody will join a 25m starting at festergut, so it snowballs and everyone leaves.

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    Anub'Arak US

    A bad pug will make it 3/12 at the most with an average pug going 6/12 usually. If you can find a good pug you will get about 10/12 with H lootship and maybe H marrowgar.
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    Re: How far does your server's average ICC PUG get to?

    Normal pugs 5/12. GDKP run 11/12, which is still a pug, just selective pug.

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    Warsong US
    It depends a lot on 10 man, there are 50% of the pugs doing 4/12 or 6/12 and the other 50% 9/12
    25 man it is always 4/12 or 6/12

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