lich king kills

[chupatwo]

I know world first kills of heroic lich king 25 have been over and done with for awhile.
And i was thinking, now that those heroic guilds have probably farmed heroic weapons and armor for their whole crew, have ANY of them killed the lich king 25 heroicmode...

without the icc buff?

[Cairhien]

No. And who cares.

[Tumble]

No. And who cares.

Obviously him. If you don't, then don't say anything, go back under your bridge where you belong.

I was also wondering the same thing.

[Nollie]

I made a thread in regards to this -- asking if it was something super high-end guilds are shooting for. I got no straight answer.

But technically it would shoot them to the top guild, above Paragon (seeing as they have been the only ones to do it with 5%)

[chupatwo]

well, yeah they had 5% buff, but they got to 25m heroic king so fast that im like 99% sure their whole raid wasnt decked out, like im sure they are now.

they speed in which they did that was impressive, but now that they are all geared, i see no reason why they shouldnt go back and do it again unbuffed.

i think something like that deserves an achievement, or SOMETHING!

[Cairhien]

But technically it would shoot them to the top guild, above Paragon (seeing as they have been the only ones to do it with 5%)

If whoever was doing the rankings had any common sense it would certainly not make them the top guild. Paragon killed it with 5% buff, and the gear they had at the time. If a guild attempted to do it with no buff now, they would (most likely) be entirely geared in 277 in every slot with 284 weapons on a portion of their raiders. It makes no sense to even compare Paragon's kill with a current gear level no buff kill.

[Estride]

I made a thread in regards to this -- asking if it was something super high-end guilds are shooting for. I got no straight answer.

But technically it would shoot them to the top guild, above Paragon (seeing as they have been the only ones to do it with 5%)

Above? no. Without the buff would be a challenge but after all these weeks farming heroic loot you compensate for that 5% buff and that won't make you better than what Paragon did.

edit: Guess I was too slow heh

[Irony]

Its pointless.

[Milanor]

Its pointless.

I disagree.

I'd like to see some guild do it only just 'cause. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[Irony]

I disagree.

I'd like to see some guild do it only just 'cause. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

It is pointless, if a guild did it now people would just say its because of the gear upgrades.

[Sunshine]

Going to lock this, since there have been multiple threads on this topic in the past week or so. Feel free to discuss the merit / possibility of a zero-buff kill in one of those. Don't worry, though; if someone does kill him without the buff, it will most definitely be on the front page.