Cata PvE

[RoknarKorgath]

I know it is still maybe too early to call anything, but what seems to be the tree with the biggest PVE boost in cata? I haven't been able to find a whole lot and I am wondering if MM is going to stay the top, or if anyone knows the possibility of the new top tree.

[Lysah]

No clue.

[Irony]

Sec I'll go log into Cata right now and find out for you.

[.Aen]

Sec I'll go log into Cata right now and find out for you.

Exactly.

OP: We are only in the Alpha stages of Cataclysm, and even once we get to see our shiny new talents there will still be lots of overhauling.

OT: I hope Beast Mastery becomes a viable DPS spec again, at least for a bit.

[Daginni]

Only hope that Beast Mastery becomes useful. But we should have Steady DPS without the need to Viper... actually, I'll kind of miss Viper, because it is the only thing that made Hunter Rotation less dull, having keeping a eye on your mana.

[Donald Hellscream]

Only hope that Beast Mastery becomes useful. But we should have Steady DPS without the need to Viper... actually, I'll kind of miss Viper, because it is the only thing that made Hunter Rotation less dull, having keeping a eye on your mana.

and that cobra shot would be getting a boost from BM ultimately replacing steady shot(if i remember correctly) although cobra shot could be scrapped along the beta of course, still i loved dpsing as BM in tbc and would totally love to have it as a viable for raiding again.

[piggyworld]

OT: I hope Beast Mastery becomes a viable DPS spec again, at least for a bit.

I sure hope not. Bashing 1 button got boring fast.

[Thundercougr]

Exactly.

OP: We are only in the Alpha stages of Cataclysm, and even once we get to see our shiny new talents there will still be lots of overhauling.

OT: I hope Beast Mastery becomes a viable DPS spec again, at least for a bit.

Screw "for a bit". Hopefully with Mastery, they can make all trees viable and equal. I really like the BM playstyle (Honestly, it's entirely because of Bestial Wrath..ha) and would raid as it if it were actually viable.

[RoknarKorgath]

Yeah I'm kind of hoping for BM to not be the lolz...I love raiding as MM but it's kind of old with EVERY hunter being MM for raids...if they are good anyway

[Zurth]

PvE Boost: Probably BM, as it will be able to take more from the MM/SV trees.

Overall, dont get your hopes up for "massive" dps boosts as hunters are already at the top of the table when it comes to dps.

[Baganzai]

I just hope they Balance it well. I realy like MM, But like to play around with BM aswell. atm im MM/surv tho, because i use(d) surv for BG's, and for some fights where we needed replenishment, or faction champs when we could use the extra CC. But i don't do that anymore, so maybe i should make a BM build again, for some solo'ing. And to be able to see my exotic pets again .

[RoknarKorgath]

@Baganzai: Yeah I definitely agree with you...I am Surv for PvP but I dont really PvP on my hunter so I would like to drop it and play pokemon with BM if it wasn't a complete waste of time...Really hoping that the NDA will be lifted soon and I can play around with the different builds and what not.

[bluehippo]

Exactly.

OP: We are only in the Alpha stages of Cataclysm, and even once we get to see our shiny new talents there will still be lots of overhauling.

OT: I hope Beast Mastery becomes a viable DPS spec again, at least for a bit.

But it is....somewhat.

[Thereign]

I sure hope not. Bashing 1 button got boring fast.

That's the case now, but sans ArP, Arcane comes back into the rotation, so you get a 5 button priority. Woo hoo!

[Darkynhalvos]

I hope Beast Mastery becomes a viable DPS spec again, at least for a bit.

It's viable now, as in properly played a BM hunter can pull their own weight.

Is it optimal? No. The only optimal spec is MM.

[Thundercougr]

It's viable now, as in properly played a BM hunter can pull their own weight.

Is it optimal? No. The only optimal spec is MM.

It's not viable if you're doing serious raiding, and that's what we mean when we say "viable". It may be "viable" in 5-man randoms, but if you're in something where DPS matters, then no BM is not viable.

[Darkynhalvos]

It's not viable if you're doing serious raiding, and that's what we mean when we say "viable". It may be "viable" in 5-man randoms, but if you're in something where DPS matters, then no BM is not viable.

If that's the case, the same must also be said about Survival, since MM is ahead of that spec also.

As for the "buff" argument, consider that each spec's buff (FI for BM, Replenishment for Survival, and TSA for MM), are all overwritten by one or more classes.

A better term would be optimal, which leaves only one spec for max DPS, which is MM.

[Thereign]

I have to agree about the buffs, it always bugged me that the only tools I brought to my raids were frost trap, kiting, and my ballin' dps. At that point, what keeps me from being replaced?

[Darkynhalvos]

I have to agree about the buffs, it always bugged me that the only tools I brought to my raids were frost trap, kiting, and my ballin' dps. At that point, what keeps me from being replaced?

Only thing that comes to mind atm (getting tired) would be situations like Enraged Shambling Horrors on the LK fight, tranq shot works wonders there.