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    Twilight Highlands Preview, Zones List, Blue Posts

    Cataclysm Preview: Twilight Highlands
    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
    Azeroth's inhabitants endure a lifetime of struggle and conflict. They're subject to violence from neighboring enemies and rampaging beasts at an early age, and must learn to take up arms to defend themselves against predators. Regularly forced to cope with the deaths of friends, family, and members of their tribes, clans, cities, and guilds, these scarred survivors become stronger by reinforcing their walls, banding together with new allies, and raising sharp, careful, resilient children. They adapt. They change.

    Few places on Azeroth exemplify this ever-changing dynamic more than the Twilight Highlands of the Eastern Kingdoms.

    The highlands have undergone constant upheaval throughout their history, with races and factions thriving, collapsing, and changing seemingly without pause. The fortress-city of Grim Batol has played host to no fewer than three potent factions: the Wildhammer dwarves, who abandoned their home after a Dark Iron curse left it uninhabitable; the red dragonflight, which was forced to fight for the Horde in the captivity of the Dragonmaw orcs during the Second War; and, of course, the Dragonmaw themselves, who were driven from Grim Batol when the red dragonflight was finally freed from their grasp.

    The Dragonmaw now cling to the edges of the highlands. They're no less wild and difficult to deal with than when they ruled Grim Batol, but their knowledge of dragons and warfare is of unquestionable importance, especially amidst the chaos of the Cataclysm. The Wildhammer dwarves dwell in forested outposts among the highlands' mountains; though long friendly with the Alliance, they have only now begun to consider casting their lot in with Stormwind and Ironforge thanks to the entreaties of their cousins, the Bronzebeard clan. Even the mighty red dragonflight has suffered greatly in recent months: its members have been decimated by a frenzied, newly aggressive black dragonflight attacking relentlessly from the petrified Obsidian Forest.

    Amidst this upheaval, a new power has come to possess the highlands.

    Though the environment has been given many names throughout its history, it's only been dubbed "Twilight" thanks to the dominance of its current masters. The fanatical Twilight's Hammer cultists appreciate the name, but there are more functional features to the swath of land they've chosen as their headquarters. It's rimmed by massive mountain peaks that scrape at the sky like fingernails, making invasion by land nearly impossible, and the highlands' black-glass beaches ensure that marine assaults are fraught with terror; ships docking on the peninsula risk running aground.

    More important to the cult, however, is the promise of worldly extinction and change that permeates the land. In the dimness of the highlands, shadows are deeper. The sun and the rest of Azeroth seem distant. The elements themselves are more pronounced: fires burn hotter; rain forces its way into the ground; and the heaves and shudders of the land call to mind some colossal being stirring beneath the earth. This doesn't frighten the members of the Twilight's Hammer; it lulls them to sleep.

    Their dark work is done here in a manner that could never have been realized in Silithus. The devoted of the Twilight's Hammer train in the halls of mighty fortresses, not tiny compounds and outposts. They summon dangerous, mercurial elementals who loathe each other to the point of outright war but still pause their feuds momentarily to work towards the destruction of the other races. Outside the highlands, the cult is fractious and divided. Here, it is guided on its mission of destruction by some of the cruelest and bloodiest names in history, yet the names associated with this cabal belie the true extent of its leadership.

    These dark whisperers chose the highlands as their base of operations for a reason. They can feel the presence of the Old Gods in the air and see their victory in the darkness. The shifting landscape, battling factions, and wicked elements embody the cult's vision of what its world will become as it is finally purged of life and order. The rest of Azeroth will follow the Twilight Highlands into oblivion, one way or another.



    Beta - Current zone status
    Originally Posted by Motive (Blue Tracker)
    Hi all,

    Here is a full list of zones, their new level ranges, and which ones are currently ready for quest testing. I will also keep this updated with links to each zone’s official feedback thread. Please try to keep feedback for each zone consolidated into these threads, it would help us keep everything organized!

    Thanks to everyone who is posting corrections and links to feedback threads. I will update the list and delete your posts as needed.

    • Alterac - No
    • Arathi – (25-30) - Yes
    • Ashenvale – (20-25) – Yes - Feedback
    • Azshara – (10-20) – Yes - Feedback
    • Badlands – (TBD!) - No
    • Blasted LandsYes - Feedback
    • Burning Steppes – (TBD!) - No
    • Darkshore - (10-20) – Yes - Feedback
    • Deepholm – (82-83) - No
    • DesolaceYes - Feedback
    • Dun Morogh – (1-10) - No
    • Durotar – (1-10) - Yes
    • Duskwood – (20-25) – Yes - Feedback
    • Dustwallow Marsh – (35-40) - Yes - Feedback
    • Eastern Plaguelands – (40-45) – No
    • Echo Isles - Yes - Feedback
    • Elwynn Forest – (1-10) - Yes
    • Felwood – (45-50) - No
    • Ferelas – (35-40) - Yes - Feedback
    • Gilneas (Worgen Start) – (1-12) - Yes
    • Hillsbrad – (20-25) - No
    • Hinterlands – (30-35) - Yes - Feedback
    • Loch Modan – (10-20) - Yes - Feedback
    • Lost Isles (Goblin Start) – (1-12) - Yes
    • Mount Hyjal – (78-82) - Yes - Feedback
    • Mulgore – (1-10) - Yes
    • North Barrens – (10-20) - Yes
    • Northshire Valley – (1-5) - Yes - Feedback
    • Redridge – (15-20) - Yes - Feedback
    • Searing Gorge – (TBD!) - No
    • Silithus – (55-60) - No
    • Silverpine – (10-20) - No
    • South Barrens – (30-35) - Yes - Feedback
    • Stonetalon – (25-30) - Yes - Feedback
    • Stranglethorn – (25-35) - Yes
    • Swamp of Sorrows – (TBD!) - No
    • Tanaris – (45-50) - Yes - Feedback
    • Teldrassil – (1-10) - Yes
    • Thousand Needles – (40-45) - No
    • Tirisfal Glades – (1-10) - Yes - Feedback
    • Twilight Highlands – (84-85) - No
    • Uldum – (84-85) - No
    • Un'Goro – (50-55) - Yes - Feedback
    • Vashj'ir – (78-82) - Yes - Feedback
    • Western Plaguelands – (35-40) - No
    • Westfall – (10-15) - Yes - Feedback
    • Wetlands – (25-30) - Yes - Feedback
    • Winterspring – (50-55) - No
    And just because I know you're all going to ask anyway, here is the list of the dungeon levels from the LFGDungeons of the latest beta build.

    • Ragefire Chasm (15 - 21)
    • Deadmines (15 - 21)
    • Wailing Caverns (15 - 25)
    • Shadowfang Keep (16 - 26)
    • Blackfathom Deeps (20 - 30)
    • Stormwind Stockade (20 - 30)
    • Gnomeregan (24 - 34)
    • Scarlet Monastery - Graveyard (26 - 36)
    • Scarlet Monastery - Library (29 - 39)
    • Razorfen Kraul (30 - 40)
    • Maraudon - Purple Crystals (30 - 40)
    • Maraudon - Orange Crystals (32 - 42)
    • Scarlet Monastery - Armory (32 - 42)
    • Maraudon - Pristine Waters (34 - 44)
    • Uldaman (35 - 45)
    • Scarlet Monastery - Cathedral (35 - 45)
    • Dire Maul - East (36 - 46)
    • Scholomance (38 - 48)
    • Dire Maul - West (39 - 49)
    • Razorfen Downs (40 - 50)
    • Dire Maul - North (42 - 52)
    • Stratholme - Main Gate (42 - 52)
    • Zul'Farrak (44 - 54)
    • Stratholme - Service Entrance (46 - 56)
    • Blackrock Depths - Prison (47 - 57)
    • Sunken Temple (50 - 60)
    • Blackrock Depths - Upper City (51 - 61)
    • Lower Blackrock Spire (55 - 65)



    Blue posts
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Equal Effective Health among all tanks
    Assuming you are defining Effective Health as armor x health, then it isn't and never has been our goal to have effective health be identical among all the tanks. Cooldowns, avoidance, emergency buttons and other class mechanics are all part of that package for us. What matters to us is whether or not the four tanks can tank the content with more or less the same chance of success. That's the metric we use, not a single number. (Source)

    Lack of Swords Itemization
    What? We love swords. Like a brother. A potentially dangerous, but nonetheless epic brother.

    Overall, though, a fewer number of classes can equip swords as compared to those that can equip axes and maces. As a result, when only a finite number of items can be created within a specific period of time, it makes sound design sense to create more axes and maces than one-handed and two-handed swords.

    Now, you may only be considering my statement in terms of itemization, but that's a trap I don't want you to fall into. Keep in mind that stats only make up half an item, and that the other half is the way the item appears in the game. We have incredibly talented, hard working artists; however, those artists still must manage their time efficiently and produce quality work that will best benefit the game. So, when determining what item artwork to develop and in what quantity, the weapon types that are used by more players (e.g. axes and maces) tend to be created in greater abundance.

    Even so, there's still quite a few swords planned for Cataclysm that are just downright awesome. (Source)

    Cross-Realm BoA Mails
    Adding the ability for players to be able to mail Bind on Account items cross-realm is something we've discussed on more than one occasion. We understand that players would greatly appreciate having the option to send heirlooms, for example, to lower-level characters on different realms, so we're exploring the possibility. It's definitely on our radar! Due to the necessary infrastructure changes that would need to occur before cross-realm mail can be integrated, though, we have no immediate plans for adding this functionality as of yet. (Source)

    Block %
    Without defense gear any longer and with no block rating on gear, you're probably at ~5% block, which is way too low. We need base block to be higher, but we still haven't fully decided if that's something all characters get or just warriors / paladins, or just tanks, etc. (Source)

    Threat Reduction Talents - Gone
    The new "reduced fat" talent trees have no threat reduction talents. (Source)

    Death Knight (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
    Death Knight Tanking/Self-Healing
    Our intent is that DKs take more damage to compensate for all of the self-healing. As Regill points out, Blood Craze is accessible now and we want Enraged Regen to be more attractive. (Source)

    Druid (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator)
    Omen of Clarity
    If I had to guess, Omen of Clarity will be a trained ability. It's too useful to different kinds of druids. Even if you put it shallow in Resto, Feral wouldn't be able to benefit from it until very high level.

    But we'll see.... (Source)

    Eclipse
    I just posted a similar thing in another thread, but I wouldn't worry too much about the current Cataclysm implementation of Eclipse. We've been focused on getting the UI functional and having it get turned on at the right moment when you spec Balance. Last time I logged into the beta as a druid, I was having Eclipse procs show up in my combat log... as a Feral. Clearly it's not ready for prime time yet.

    I'm not sure we'd ever go with charges for the mechanic. That just goes against everything we're trying to do for class design. We don't want set rotations where you know you can go 1231 ad infinitum. We want players to respond to dynamic things happening that they won't be able to predict with 100% certainty. We want the best players to be those who pay attention, not those who can follow a rote rotation. Talents like Ruthlessness and Omen of Clarity are put in precisely to screw up rotations, but also to reward players who can handle that uncertainty.

    You're not going to be able to fully maximize every Eclipse proc, in the same way a mage may lose a Fireball channel if she suddenly has to move or a rogue may lose combo points if he needs to quickly switch targets. But as with those example, we also want to make sure the druid isn't totally boned if something happens and you can't take full advantage of an Eclipse.

    Give us a couple of beta builds, and there will be a more fully functional Eclipse that you can then comment on. (Source)

    Eclipse #2
    I wouldn't put much stock in the current tuning of Eclipse in Cataclysm. We just barely have the mechanic working at all.

    We will still give Balance druids the Eclipse bar at level 10, along with an active ability. At high level, mastery on gear will enhance the Arcane and Nature bonuses of the bar. (Source)

    Paladin (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
    Divine Storm back into the talent tree
    After further reflection, we don't think Divine Storm makes a good level 10 Ret ability. It really wants to be an AE attack, and it's just hard to make an AE attack a signature ability usable in as many situations as a signature attack deserves to be.

    Divine Storm will probably go back into the talent tree. It won't be the 31-point though. Both the 31-point and the 10 ability need to have more single-target use. That means something like 3 new abilities for Retribution and several new or modified talents on top of that. Crazy.

    As you can see, we're still iterating a lot on paladins. Our lack of communication is because things are changing quickly, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to share it all until things feel a little more stable. (Source)

    Beacon of Light in Cataclysm (Source)
    Paladin healing with Beacon is a lot more dynamic than it was without.

    I think it works fine with the Cataclysm healing style. It will let you (sometimes) heal two targets at once, which is a great use of GCDs.

    Beacon of Light does need dispel protection, or PvP is going to suck. Same with sacred shield.
    Dispels are more expensive in Cataclysm in a few ways. I'm not sure it's going to be very strategic to dispel a spell that can immediately be reapplied.

    Warlock (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
    Pet scaling
    The plan is for your pets to scale 100% with your stats. In fact, group buffs don't even work on pets any longer so that they don't double dip from those buffs. (Source)

    Removing Passive Talents
    If you look at the warlock trees, there are tons of talents that buff Corruption and add range and crit damage and whatever. A couple of those per tree are okay but clearly we need to remove a lot of them and that means adding new talents, which unfortunately is slow. (Source)

    Soul Harvest (Soul Harvest)
    Outside of combat (which means between encounters, not when you can get out of combat for 2 sec in an Arena), you can get the shards back quickly from killing things or using Harvest Soul if there is nothing conveniently around to kill. We don't want Harvest Soul to be super convenient. It's your backup option.

    If we find that it's super frustrating as a lock in a long encounter (including a long Arena match), then we'll look at ways to get shards back in combat. However our prediction is as soon as we do that, locks will start blowing their shards on cooldown and then getting frustrated at a slow Aspect of the Viper-like mechanic to get them back. (Source)

    Soul Link
    Our thought at the moment is to put Soul Link in the second tier of talents where it is accessible to any PvP-focused warlock. (Source)

    Warrior (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
    Plans for Last Stand
    I said that we'd like to remove the glyph and just make the talent all there is. Not sure if we would use the glyphed or unglyphed cooldown yet though. (Source)

    Unrelenting Assault
    Unrelenting Assault: This talent has been removed. (Source)

    [b]Thunder Clap Spam
    We're not happy with the no cooldown model. We'll try to handle the terror of "streaming adds" in another way. (Source)

    Fury / Victory Rush
    Also, is there still a chance fury will get a new melee attack or is the whole victory rush thing that GC talked about the new plan?
    Undecided.

    Our concern about Victory Rush is that Arms already has two big procs to watch for (Overpower and Execute) compared to Fury's one (Slam). Adding Victory Rush procs to Fury makes them feel a lot more like Arms. The right answer might lie somewhere outside of Victory Rush. (Source)

    Concept Arts
    Two Concept Arts have been added to the official Concept Art Gallery.



    Wallpapers
    Two wallpapers have been added to the Official Site.

    Last edited by Boubouille; 2010-07-10 at 07:10 AM.

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    I like the eclipse and idea for balance druids

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    I approve of this message.

    I can't wait to see what they do with Warrior Tanking.

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    *Reads paladin part* amagaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!! *faints*

    Jeez blizz, don't do that, with all the stale paladin news we have had lately, I just can't help getting really suprised when they show up with things like "3 new abilities"...wth.

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    The news lately has been a little dry at least in my opinion. Every time a new post comes out it sounds like Blizzard feels less and less confident with the decisions they make.

    "Shamans can't use swords because it doesn't make sense lore-wise."
    *months pass*
    "Yeah we realize there's a lack of swords in game but that's because not as many classes can use them.."

    "Oh that BoA mailing cross-realm thing that was brought up ages ago? Still a maybe."

    "Extra character slots? Maybe."

    "Dance studio? Still a maybe. On the radar."

    "Strangle Thorn Vale to be the most changed zone? Maybe. We'll see."

    "When will you be able to test the new 31-point talent trees? Maybe in a few weeks."

    etc.

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    Wait, what? BoL will "sometimes" heal two targets? Does that mean the player buffed with BoL will only some of the time receive a copy of the healing I cast on another person? Or is it that when I cast a heal on the beaconed player, a duplicate heal has a chance of being applied to another player in the party/raid?

    I think I missed something. >.<
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    Oh, this concept art makes me hope that the throne room as well as all Undercity will get some love.

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    Another day, another blue post with no mage information

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    The throne room is awesome.

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    Poor warlocks with threat reducing talents being removed.

    The sometimes on BoL imo means that you dont use it every time so when you do, you will heal 2 targets, they would never make this RNG, it would be useless.

    Totally messing with ret again? Great, glad we see 1st FotM of Cata, not too many people have to reroll though .

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    About the art,
    first of all the one with the Alliance vs. Horde, the drawing skill is very good here.
    But I feel I have to make a bit comment...
    On the left, the Night Elf Druid, it took me some time to realize it actually was a Night Elf. Too much torso vs. too skinny mid.
    The Draenei looks really good! Alltho it's a bit odd him being a Paladin and casting some lightning stuff. (at least to me it really doesn't look like some Holy spell)
    The others look absolutely fine and the Human Priest looks cute
    On the right side, the Blood Elf seems to be female as she has boobies, but the face looks more male than female to me. Same goes for the Troll as well to be honest.
    I think the Undead is a bit... too undead?
    But the Orc and the Tauren look ab-so-lutely fucking amazing! I really like those. Also the Shaman T2 shoulder armor on the Tauren is done really nice.
    Despite my comments I think all in all it's a damn great picture!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snes View Post
    The news lately has been a little dry at least in my opinion. Every time a new post comes out it sounds like Blizzard feels less and less confident with the decisions they make.

    "Shamans can't use swords because it doesn't make sense lore-wise."
    *months pass*
    "Yeah we realize there's a lack of swords in game but that's because not as many classes can use them.."

    "Oh that BoA mailing cross-realm thing that was brought up ages ago? Still a maybe."

    "Extra character slots? Maybe."

    "Dance studio? Still a maybe. On the radar."

    "Strangle Thorn Vale to be the most changed zone? Maybe. We'll see."

    "When will you be able to test the new 31-point talent trees? Maybe in a few weeks."

    etc.
    Ever consider the possibility that they're simply being coy? Most of the things you mention are not in any way game-changing, so I have no doubt Blizzard simply has other things on their plate. Any one of those changes could happen in a simple patch...most could be implemented without the expansion at all. As for the other things:

    Blizzard knows what they're doing to Stranglethorn Vale. They just don't want you to know what they're doing with it until it's finished.

    Blizzard said people will be able to test the 31-point talents during the next major beta build. When they'll release I'm sure is up in the air at this point, and should that be surprising? I'm sure they'll be constantly tweaking those talents all the way up until release.

    Just seems like a lot of nitpicking to me. Blizzard could simply not answer questions at all, and leave you completely in the dark. Instead, they're answering what they can, and teasing you about what they can't. It literally means nothing in terms of where they are in development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snes View Post
    The news lately has been a little dry at least in my opinion. Every time a new post comes out it sounds like Blizzard feels less and less confident with the decisions they make.

    "Shamans can't use swords because it doesn't make sense lore-wise."
    *months pass*
    "Yeah we realize there's a lack of swords in game but that's because not as many classes can use them.."

    "Oh that BoA mailing cross-realm thing that was brought up ages ago? Still a maybe."

    "Extra character slots? Maybe."

    "Dance studio? Still a maybe. On the radar."

    "Strangle Thorn Vale to be the most changed zone? Maybe. We'll see."

    "When will you be able to test the new 31-point talent trees? Maybe in a few weeks."

    etc.
    I was kind of thinking the same thing. It seem they can't think of what to do with any of the classes. The fact that they removed block value, but have nothing to substitute it with. God knows what they plan on doing with Ret pallys, they are the only class i know of that you can get all your talents you need for raiding, and still have 20 talent points free.

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    If they dont come up with new and exciting news for Paladins then I'm rolling a Warrior because of the attention this class gets compared to the other 9 and especially to the Paladin lately.

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    Unrelenting Assault
    Unrelenting Assault: This talent has been removed. (Source)
    Keep them coming Warrior nerfs ! Some people still play that class, this isn't right, gotta nerf them TO TEH GROUND BABY.

    Quote Originally Posted by Epsi View Post
    If they dont come up with new and exciting news for Paladins then I'm rolling a Warrior because of the attention this class gets compared to the other 9 and especially to the Paladin lately.
    By attention, you mean constant nerfs?

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    Divine Storm will probably go back into the talent tree. It won't be the 31-point though. Both the 31-point and the 10 ability need to have more single-target use. That means something like 3 new abilities for Retribution and several new or modified talents on top of that. Crazy.

    This almost makes me want to start playing again and level a new paladin.. just, WOW!
    Not only the new attacks for retri, but also the new heal that is about 65%~ stronger than the current holy light.
    So leveling a retri, then playing holy in 85, seems pretty interesting imo. Maybe paladins will finally feel like a real class!
    Also, there's nothing wrong about previously announced shaman changes, I really like those too.

    //Sonoka~

    ---------- Post added 2010-07-10 at 10:30 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Zergal View Post
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    Keep them coming Warrior nerfs ! Some people still play that class, this isn't right, gotta nerf them TO TEH GROUND BABY.
    Ehm, todays warriors really do need nerfs.. Meeting an arms warrior in arena that have 45k hp unbuffed and still critting clothies for half their hp on one attack, that really needs nerfing >_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zergal View Post
    By attention, you mean constant nerfs?
    No.

    Things like a solution for:

    - Forbearance: this has to be changed for all three trees. There's no other class suffering from something like this.
    - Protection - silence weakness: hello at 1 attack avaible besides auto attack.

    I can't speak for all three speccs, because I'm just playing prot as main - I'm sure there are a lot of others points, which I couldnt have think of right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonoka View Post

    Ehm, todays warriors really do need nerfs.. Meeting an arms warrior in arena that have 45k hp unbuffed and still critting clothies for half their hp on one attack, that really needs nerfing >_<
    Wich game you play? As a full wrathfull Warrior i have 34k hp unbuffed and crit for 2k at best on anything equaly geared. So i don't think you're talking about WoW. Unless you talk about Warriors wielding shadowmourne, who will have even less health/resil, shadowmourne isn't balanced, no matter wich class wields it, and no class should be balanced around a legendary considering an only extremely small percentage of person of said class will ever have it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Epsi View Post
    No.

    Things like a solution for:

    - Forbearance: this has to be changed for all three trees. There's no other class suffering from something like this.
    - Protection - silence weakness: hello at 1 attack avaible besides auto attack.

    I can't speak for all three speccs, because I'm just playing prot as main - I'm sure there are a lot of others points, which I couldnt have think of right now.
    Forbearance exists because some of your spells are just EXTREMELY powerfull, same reason why Titan Grip has a 10% damage reduction. Paladins chaining Bubble, hand of protection and LOH wasn't fine by any mean.

    DKs are weak to silence too, and you don't suffer as much from disarm, so its only a counter part. Disarmed warrior : hello at 1 attack availlable besides auto attack.
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    @Zegal, there's plenty 2.3k + rating warriors that got 45k hp, and I really doubt you only crit 2k on a clothie, even if hes equally geared, maybe you break through half a power word: shield and then crit 2k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonoka View Post
    @Zegal, there's plenty 2.3k + rating warriors that got 45k hp, and I really doubt you only crit 2k on a clothie, even if hes equally geared, maybe you break through half a power word: shield and then crit 2k.
    I have 47k HP unbuffed in my ICC25 off-spec tanking gear fully gemmed/enchanted for health/stamina.

    In 5s, with Commanding shout, Blessing of Kings, Mark of the Wild and Prayer of fortitude the highest i ever had was around 42k in PvP gear. So unless you fight Warriors in tank gear on your battlegroup, its completly impossible.


    And out of curiosity, you mind linking me the armory of your Lock/Priest? (The only 2 class that could possibly ever complain about a Warrior.) I'm curious.

    Heres mine, in complete Wrathfull Gear :http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ine&cn=Zergall

    (And before you say something stupid, the ranged weapon wouldn't give me 10k HP, and absolutly no 2300+ rated Warrior would play with that gear setup considering how crappy their damage would be. Most of them run with 70%+ arp.).
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