Garrosh in Garadar when Cataclysm comes out?

[Zoma]

At the moment, players first see Garrosh in Nagrand as the leader of the orcs there, and then in Warsong Hold as the leader of the Warsong Offensive. This is fine for lore because most people won't go back to Outland after they reach level 68-70 (except for achievements).

However, once Cataclysm comes out and Garrosh is the Warchief of the Horde, players will be seeing Garrosh throughout their leveling. So it no longer makes sense if you level with Garrosh as warchief, then go to Outland and see him as a whining pussy in charge of the native orcs. But if they remove Garrosh from Garadar, they also remove one of the most important lore-based quest lines in the game (Thrall coming to Garadar and showing Garrosh what happened to his father, Grom). This only occurred to me recently because I assumed Outland and Northrend would be untouched by the Cataclysm.

So, what do you think will happen in Garadar when Cataclysm comes out?

[GennGreymane]

thiunk of it like this

u go back in time to out lands and northrend

[Darchand]

It really is one area blizzard really failed on sadly and I have thought of this to. For some one just starting it could be a bit confusing as to the time line. It is fine for the rest of us though where we know the story and time line but I bet it could be confusing for a new player unfamiliar with the lore.

[Beastlyhunk]

Blizzard stated awhile back that we have to look at it like this:

1-60 - We are fresh adventurers dealing with the current threat in current times, arthas is dead, illidan is dead. Deathwing/Cho'gall are destroying the land!

60-70 - (whether you like it or not) We go back in time to Outlands dealing with the Burning Legion invasion, illidan is alive and well.

70-80 - The Burning Legion has been dealt with, Kaeljaedan has been stumped. ZOIKS! SCOURGE INVASION IN NORTHREND! Arthas is chillin (quite literally) on his throne

80-85 - Arthas has been defeated ZOMG DEATHWING is ruining the world!!!!

TLR - you are always in the time of the expansion your in

[Igneous42]

Blizzard stated awhile back that we have to look at it like this:

1-60 - We are fresh adventurers dealing with the current threat in current times, arthas is dead, illidan is dead. Deathwing/Cho'gall are destroying the land!

60-70 - (whether you like it or not) We go back in time to Outlands dealing with the Burning Legion invasion, illidan is alive and well.

70-80 - The Burning Legion has been dealt with, Kaeljaedan has been stumped. ZOIKS! SCOURGE INVASION IN NORTHREND! Arthas is chillin (quite literally) on his throne

80-85 - Arthas has been defeated ZOMG DEATHWING is ruining the world!!!!

TLR - you are always in the time of the expansion your in

Yeah pretty much what he said. Now I think it's likely that they'll stick at least some lore reason in there, even if it's a weak one. Like the "to the dark portal" quests now sends you to chromie who explains you have to go back in time for some reason. Like I said it wouldn't be a very strong reason but it'd be a reason.

[Dominating]

Blizzard stated awhile back that we have to look at it like this:

1-60 - We are fresh adventurers dealing with the current threat in current times, arthas is dead, illidan is dead. Deathwing/Cho'gall are destroying the land!

60-70 - (whether you like it or not) We go back in time to Outlands dealing with the Burning Legion invasion, illidan is alive and well.

70-80 - The Burning Legion has been dealt with, Kaeljaedan has been stumped. ZOIKS! SCOURGE INVASION IN NORTHREND! Arthas is chillin (quite literally) on his throne

80-85 - Arthas has been defeated ZOMG DEATHWING is ruining the world!!!!

TLR - you are always in the time of the expansion your in

They should just make Northrend and Outland optional IMO and let you level in the old world.

But of course, there are only so many zones...

[Zoma]

So basically the Dark Portal is now in the Caverns of Time, gotcha

[Rakeer]

Thats a pretty big portal ya gotta take, ide imagine traveling through the nether like that would do something to time since its so vastly changing space. besides blizz has done worse.

[Zoma]

Damn, just remembered that quest after finding Mag'har in Hellfire Peninsula. Suppose to go to Thrall and tell him you found untainted orcs in Outland. If Blizz switches this from Thrall to Garrosh, going to lmfao.

[Zoma]: Warchief Garrosh! I have just discovered orcs in Outland, completely untainted by Mannoroth's felblood!
Garrosh looks at Zoma and covers his face with his palm.

[The bearer of truths]

so we can go back in time to asasinate him before he leads the horde to ruin.