power supply/graphics card

[Moobious]

Some major manufacturer computers use a proprietary case.

What is your old computer?

[Stea]

ok so i have been looking a little more and this is what i have come up with:

Motherboard: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...23027&csid=_21

Processor: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&CatId=4731RAM

Ram: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...37614&csid=_25

Graphics card: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...907&CatId=3669

as for the hared drive i have 2 options

1. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...y=#ReviewStart

2. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...y=#ReviewStart

and the power supply is this but i am not sure if i need a better one or not

PSU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...149&CatId=1079

[Moobious]

all of those parts look good.

What case were you planning on putting it all in?

[Stea]

well to be totally honest i was going to use the case i am using for this current computer and put these parts into a really old computer i have laying around, and just throw the parts in that computer away

---------- Post added 2010-07-22 at 09:59 PM ----------

and to be totally honest idk what my old computer is it says HP on the outside and thats all i really know about it besides it has a black case and no graphis card or anything useful, and only a 40GB hard drive, also i need help deciding which HDD to get and if i will need to upgrade the PSU

[vesseblah]

and to be totally honest idk what my old computer is it says HP on the outside and thats all i really know about it besides it has a black case and no graphis card or anything useful, and only a 40GB hard drive, also i need help deciding which HDD to get and if i will need to upgrade the PSU

HP cases often are designed for mATX standard motherboards, and you can not fit regular ATX inside it. Specs sheet in HP website will tell it in a roundabout way which size is it. Also if the computer is old enough to come with 40GB HDD, it has way too old PSU to power the new computer.

[Stea]

oh no i was doing rechearch on that as i was posting my new PSU is this

PSU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...38607&csid=_23

all i am useing is my black case, which now if ur correct... i cant use

[vesseblah]

What's the exact model of your HP computer? It should say it somewhere in the case. Or if you have opened it and looked inside, you can tell if the motherboard is even square or more like postcard-shaped. If it's even square and has 1-2 expansion slots, it's mATX and most likely your case will not handle full-sized ATX motherboards.

[Moobious]

There is a post on here about someone who has a HP computer and added a new video card and PSU to it and has massive heat issues due to poor airflow in the HP case.

Just get a case that doesn't fail.

[Cilraaz]

Some proprietary builds also use the BTX "standard". They're almost identical in size to ATX, but have a different layout, making it impossible (at least the vast majority of the time) to swap to an ATX board.

[Stea]

how could i find out which layout it is?

[vesseblah]

What's the exact model of your HP computer? Or you can check it from HP's site yourself to be sure.

[Stea]

my bro just told me my dad "fixed it up" and gave it to us for christmas, where usually does it say on the outside of the computer

here i found the computer, it isnt HP's site but this is all i could find, i am not entirely sure all the internal components are the same eather

http://www.cedarpc.com/cgi-bin/comme...ction&key=2461

[vesseblah]

Yep, it's mATX type case. Should've said from the start it's smaller than normal computers.

[Stea]

well i guess all my family has is mATX because they are all mostly like this,S#@T!!

---------- Post added 2010-07-23 at 08:10 PM ----------

ok so this is the case i am likeing due to price and looks, but i have 2 other options, i am trying to keep this low price but please feel free to vocalize ur oppinion

the one i like: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=A406-1094

other 2 options: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=A107-3016

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=A107-3016

[Moobious]

nzxt has a good rep although I think they are all fugly as hell.

I have an antec 300 and love it.

[Stea]

ok so my friend suggested a different motherboaRD AND CPU and now idk which to use they are both Asus and here they are

what i chose :http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...162&CatId=4725
with the cpu i chose :http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&CatId=4731RAM

and here is what he said : http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...065&CatId=4296

with one of these 2 CPU
Quad: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...702&CatId=3496
6 core:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...1&Sku=A79-1055

and then after this i need someones help from someone i dont entirely understand the whole PSU thing

[Moobious]

ok so my friend suggested a different motherboaRD AND CPU and now idk which to use they are both Asus and here they are

what i chose :http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...162&CatId=4725
with the cpu i chose :http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&CatId=4731RAM

and here is what he said : http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...065&CatId=4296

with one of these 2 CPU
Quad: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...702&CatId=3496
6 core:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...1&Sku=A79-1055

and then after this i need someones help from someone i dont entirely understand the whole PSU thing

He recommended an AMD processor. They're fine but Intel is a generation ahead of AMD as far as processor design goes so an intel chip will be faster (For the i5 or i7s if you can't afford one of those go amd).

And a 6 core cpu isn't utilized by games now so it isn't worth much as far as performance goes.

[Stea]

well his veresion is a little cheaper which is alwasy nice, but preformance wise how big of a diffeerance would they be if i were say playing wow on ultra settings

[Moobious]

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/27...nom-intel-core

[Stea]

He recommended an AMD processor. They're fine but Intel is a generation ahead of AMD as far as processor design goes so an intel chip will be faster (For the i5 or i7s if you can't afford one of those go amd).

And a 6 core cpu isn't utilized by games now so it isn't worth much as far as performance goes.

when u say this do u mean that it will be just as good as a quad? or do u mean something else