well, testing with InQ will cause trouble as i cant train it..
1)If we have a 5 stack on the boss, then hit Inquisition to increase our holy dmg, does the 5 stack instantly gain the buff or does it need to be refreshed by our melee swing to gain the buff?
2)Assume we have a 5 stack on the boss that is buffed by Inquisition, is it a rolling buff? Meaning that even though the holy dmg buff from Inquisition has fallen off the paladin, does the dot retain the increased dmg?
---------- Post added 2010-07-23 at 01:30 PM ----------
So don't grimace too much. :P There are plenty of skilled players in the beta as well, and many of the best-known players out there were pulled in for Alpha.
-If the tech is updated, then (1) will be "It instantly gains the buff.", which also means the damage drops when the buff drops.
-If the tech is not updated, then I believe the standard "stacking" design is that the damage will only go up when refreshed during InQ, and will only go down when you refresh after InQ has fallen.
I believe the rolling haste/crit/etc. effects you see in other abilities are related to them being single spells, rather than stacks. So the spell's original values are refreshed, whereas with stacks the values are re-calculated each time you re-stack (even if at max).
I'm not sure why they're different, or even if they are at this point, as it seems like the two should be handled the same way in the code.
Crusader Strike definitely needs a 3 second cooldown. Right now I feel like I have way too few buttons to press, especially with holy power regenerating so slowly as it is now.
Exorcism is just as low of damage now as it was previously, If they want it used during normal rotation with higher priority it has to come off the spell hit table. You will get more damage out of a TV, CS cycle then you will out of using Exorcism.
Again, display your rotation without Exorcism...
---------- Post added 2010-07-23 at 07:03 PM ----------
With Blessing of Might Buff only, No Glyphs, Exorcism is talented.
But that's not even the point. Until Crusader Strike is definitely back to 3 seconds cooldown, "wait" is going to be an attack in your rotation without Exorcism.
And since none of us have Inquisition yet, we're not even accounting for that increase in damage either. I'm not saying the ability is "fine". The talents that affect it aren't "fine" either.
But it fits in our rotation now just as much as it does on live - if not more than live since we wont be using Divine Storm anymore.
Last edited by Velandia; 2010-07-23 at 07:09 PM.
What is the CD on Templar's Verdict?
Were going to follow this for the entire 15 seconds that Zealotry is up, If it's an AE fight were going to be using DS instead of TV, Judgement being a 9 second CD again is actually bad 8 or 7 is where it needs to be. Damage seems buggy right now, You obviously still need to judge to keep your mana coming back but if you can stretch the judgement time out you should to take full advantage of Zealotry.
I'm still trying to fine tune a rotation I'm feeling like right now I like Judge -> CS -> CS Zealotry -> CS -> IQ -> CS -> TV
Then you would continue using a CS -> TV until Zealotry is down in which this is where we run into needing filler abilities so far I'm still debating on what to use as the filler but I'm avoiding Exorcism it's the last thing on my priority list.
Client keeps crashing I'll get back in and work on the rotation so more without Zealotry after I get off work.
I didn't actually show the pre build up to using the first Zealotry I guess I didn't think about it mattering much as it's going to be in conjunction with out 5 stack ramp up time. I also haven't decided which filler to use but I'm leaning more towards Consecrate then anything else.
There are a lot of things to be considering we don't have access to right now, But i'm not working on a rotation for leveling I'm just getting the jest of what is best to use and while you want to use exorcism I have zero want to use it.
And speaking of holy power why doesn't prot have an ability to play with HP other than holy shield? Ofc there's Word of Glory but it would be nice if there was a damaging ability also to choose from.
---------- Post added 2010-07-23 at 08:22 PM ----------
well before we had the change to Divine purpose, we couldve filled alot more TV's in our rotation instead of exor's. now we have to get lucky to get a HPow back to get it further again.
so far, ive done a CS -> judge(haste buff) -> conc -> CS -> (2/3 sec gap here) CS -> TV -> repeat rotation
this would change if judgement would have the 7 sec cd instead of 10sec. then we really wouldnt be needing exor.