Blood elves = hight elves.

[metalsteve]

I wish people would stop asking for high elves to be a new playable race when they are exactly the same as blood elves.

They were called blood elves well before they become addicted to fel magic so dont claim they are biologically different either.

Those who choose to call themselves high elves are just traitors to the blood elf people who don't honor those who fell in Quel'thalas. Imo they should all be killed.

[Irony]

High elves have blue eyes.
Blue > green.

[Gunmist]

Yes those High elves are tall aren't they?

[Shinen]

Can hight elves be a playable race, please?

[Deleted]

Using this thread to copy pastah my idea made elsewhere for blood elves-High Elves.

I'ld like to see the Blood Elves advancing in Eastern Plaguelands(yes, QQ EPL is supposed to be Argent infested), pushing the remaining scourge out of their land and finding the roots. They have a foothold there, looking similar to the one in Hellfire.
You are appointed to scout a strange source of magic found further west. When you arrive there, you see the High Elves at Quel'Lithien Lodge, consuming magic from an old Burning Legion item, left there by Mal'ganis. Being cut off from all communication with the other High/Blood Elves, they don't appear to realise that the Sunwell has been reignited.
The Blood Elves at the lodge realise the High Elves are going along the same path they did, so they ask you to steal the item from the High Elves(insert quest to get a disguise). After you steal it, one of the elves in the base tries to open it, which sucks out his life and he falls dead on the ground. They realise they need help from the High Elves to get more information about it. You are sent to the lodge to lure one away and try to convince him/her that the item is corrupt and you need to destroy the evil within. You fail and are forced to flee because the elf screams for help.
Considering the situation, the elves at the base suggest you go to ask Lady Liadrin for help, to try and convince the High Elves to join your cause and help them get in touch with the Sunwell. She agrees and you go back to the Blood Elf base, only to find it in disarray, the item was binded to Mal'ganis and he returned to retrieve it. Most of the blood elves from the base have fled, but Mal'ganis has some controlled.
Seeing the situation Lady Liadrin realises that you two are no match for Mal'ganis, so you go to the High Elf lodge. Once there, Lady Liadrin makes a big speech and with your help, shows the High Elves to connect with the Sunwell once more. The lodge then becomes friendly and your base of operation against Mal'ganis. First you go out and find the blood elves from the base and bring them back to the lodge, then you are sent to get materials needed to cast a spell that allows the elves to break the mind control. After you've done all that, you march upon the Blood Elf base and while Lady Liadrin keeps Mal'ganis distracted, you break the mind controls and then help the elves defeat Mal'ganis and then shatter the item, making it unable for him to ever get back.

Afterwards, the High Elves from the lodge pledge loyalty to Lady Liadrin and the Blood Elf banner.
Before any Alliance player gets ticked off because they join the Blood Elves, realise that this Lodge hasn't gotten any alliance or High Elf aid whatsoever. And honestly, I'ld like to see more remnants of the High Elves get picked up by the Blood Elves, because it's very possible that they don't know about all the things that happened back in Quel'Thalas(Sunwell etc), they might just be more rational than Vareesa Windrunner.
Perhaps Quel'Danil Lodge in Hinterlands could also pledge loyalty to the Blood Elf banner? considering they're not much more than killable mobs atm.

I figured that this would give the Blood Elves more reasons to be at certain places, without having to be the 'lackeys' of the Forsaken, if they were to be in any Forsaken oriented area. There's also the issue of that we don't know if the elves in those lodges actually know what happened in Quel'Thalas(even going as far back as the Scourge Invasion) It's not like they have cellphones or TV's where they could see what happened and the use of magic in these lodges was brought down to an absolute minimum. For all we know, they had no idea and would actually rather have the option to choose, perhaps some stand-off in Hinterlands between Vareesa Windrunner and Lor'Themar Theron? Which would result in the High Elves there splitting into 2 groups, one follows Vareesa into the Alliance and the other Lor'themar in the Horde. It could serve as an interesting questline. Considering the proximity to Aerie Peak, the Horde ones will have no other options but to flee, perhaps taking over a Troll camp, closer to Revantusk Village. That would also create some interesting story, since they were former enemies.

[Velocitorix]

What are "hight elves"?

[Florena]

Uh, no, they were addicted to magic for thousands of years before the term 'blood elf' came around. There's also a difference in how they handle the addiciton. Blood elves feed it, high elves fight it, and have to meditate for an hour each day to keep it in check. Take a look at wowwiki. The reason many people want high elves in the alliance is that, in WC 2 and 3, they were an integral part of the alliance, and many are still loyal to it. Even in wc 3 when Slvermoon withdrew from the alliance, many mages and priests helped the alliance anyway. (See the sorceress and priest units for the Human faction. )

[ketzil]

Imo they should all be killed.

Imo you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

[Deleted]

Or, blood elves are the traitors to their own race after they fell into addiction of magic - they are the offshoots of the original high elf race.

Theres 2 ways of looking at it, but yes, biologically, they are the same race.

[metalsteve]

hight elves

Typing error. It happens. Stop trolling.

[Shinen]

Anyways, seriously now, in Cataclysm the night elves get to be Mages, and the lore that they came up with is the high elves that did not follow the rest so they did not become blood elves.

Clear now?

[Ivion]

Blood Elves are practically Neutral already anyhow, lore wise.

[metalsteve]

Or, blood elves are the traitors to their own race after they fell into addiction of magic - they are the offshoots of the original high elf race.

Theres 2 ways of looking at it, but yes, biologically, they are the same race.

They followed there prince. High elves didnt.

[Deleted]

I want High Elves to be a playable race!!

C wut I did thar?

[metalsteve]

hight elves

Reported for trolling.

Read the post not the title.

[Zuben]

I agree with the traitor statement, all high elves should be killed off(except the Windrunner sisters, they're too juicy considering their relationship to Sylvanas). But the fact remains the blood elves do have biological differences to high elves. The origin of the name doesn't matter, all blood elves absorbed fel energies and it has changed their genetics irreversibly. Right now it's merely the eye color and skin tone, but wait a handful of generations and we might see a nelf/helf amount of differences.

[Vail]

Ugh, whether they are different or not, we have enough elves! D:

[Faerillis]

Blood Elves and High Elves are genetically different.

Blood Elves are High Elves whose genetic composition has been altered by fel energies. Further more they are being twisted further by the constant presence of Light/Holy energy permeating from the Sunwell.

High Elves have neither of these mutations. However based on these facts, the Felblood Elves and Wretched it would appear people akin to the Highborne have fairly malleable genes. Ergo a new source of magic, say Crystalsong Forest/Nexus-esque could warp the High Elves into a new species. Considering the high population of High Elves in Dalaran, consistently dealing with the Blue Dragonflight and the various energies of the Nexus it would not be hard to believe they have mutated into a new strain of High Elf. Perhaps with some notable differences to Blood Elves. Say darker blue eyes, dragon-esque ears, common hair colours, stature, etc..

And despite the fact that most people will never look past that incredibly annoying way Blood Elves and High Elves stand their lore is in fact interesting enough that it is understandable why people would want their own.

And yes they were called Blood Elves before the Fel Magic, but they became a new race after it.

tl;dr Fuck off with this no more elf shit.

And no

Or, blood elves are the traitors to their own race after they fell into addiction of magic - they are the offshoots of the original high elf race.

Theres 2 ways of looking at it, but yes, biologically, they are the same race.

No they are not biologically the same race.

[Mandible]

Or, blood elves are the traitors to their own race after they fell into addiction of magic - they are the offshoots of the original high elf race.

Theres 2 ways of looking at it, but yes, biologically, they are the same race.

They didn´t "fall into addiction" - Sunwell got blown up = all the HIGH elves living in the area suddenly felt a craving they had not felt before due to sunwell being there, same reason why they got different color eyes than high elves living far away and as such wouldn´t have been given such a high dose of magic.

On a sidenote Blood Elves are just a name they took after the massacre.

Night elves get to be mages due to the high bourne - which technically are predecessors from both high / blood elves and another offspring of night elves.

[Florena]

I agree with the traitor statement, all high elves should be killed off(except the Windrunner sisters, they're too juicy considering their relationship to Sylvanas). But the fact remains the blood elves do have biological differences to high elves. The origin of the name doesn't matter, all blood elves absorbed fel energies and it has changed their genetics irreversibly. Right now it's merely the eye color and skin tone, but wait a handful of generations and we might see a nelf/helf amount of differences.

Actually, as of the end of the Sunwell Pinacle raid, the sunwell was replenished, if I'm not mistake, as a source of holy energy, solving the crisis that had befallen the blood elven people. Blood end high elves as of the quel'delar quests go there on a pilgrimage. The blood elves have turned from the dark path they were set on with the fel magic, mostly at least. They still have warlocks.