Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst
1
2
3
  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by durza View Post
    if they do this ill just use soul stones less then i do already
    How so? They might be adding an additional use to it on top of its current form. Durrrr

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by ffcloud2000 View Post
    How so? They might be adding an additional use to it on top of its current form. Durrrr
    He's one of these 'win the meter not the fight' players.

  3. #43
    I would be very happy with a combat resurrection skill, but it kinda sucks that likely i cannot put it onto my own char that way any more.

  4. #44
    Necroooooostorm!!!

  5. #45
    I think it'd be interesting if say, you have a soulstone in your inventory and therefore anyone in the raid who dies has the option of consuming it, including yourself ofc. It'll be up to raid leaders to say who gets so use it, but once used it goes on CD.

  6. #46
    Brewmaster jibbyjackjoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Pallet Town
    Posts
    1,442
    What if there was a bonus for correctly "guessing" who would die? Reduce the end gain of the ability and make it more functioning? If you Soul Stone the nuke DPS, and they get dead then thats a good call on your raid leader. They get to come back w/ 25% health/mana. If you have a shard that you can burn before they rez, then they can come back with the normal 30%. If you make the wrong call and perhaps the off tank dies to something, you can rip the soul shard from the stoned person and brez the dead player, but maybe only come back w/ 15% health/mana. Got a spare shard? Then they can come back with 20%. That way its not strictly better than BRez or SelfRez, and it would add great use of our new mechanic.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by DrNemesis View Post
    I think it'd be interesting if say, you have a soulstone in your inventory and therefore anyone in the raid who dies has the option of consuming it, including yourself ofc. It'll be up to raid leaders to say who gets so use it, but once used it goes on CD.
    The point being that it would operate much like the current battleres, where it has to be targeted specifically, and making the choice of target matter.
    The idea was to prevent any single class bringing a unique buff which ensures that inclusion into a group.
    Where a position is earned by the player, and not the class or spec they play.
    So far the battleres is a clear exception to that principle.
    The soulstone in the current implementation is not what I consider remotely close.
    Last edited by ComputerNerd; 2010-10-30 at 05:46 AM.

  8. #48
    Bloodsail Admiral
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    1,248
    Isn't there a cap in place as of 4.0.1 and will continue into Cataclysm on the amount of players in both 10/25 who can be Battle Rezzed. IIRC 2 in 25 and 1 in 10 per fight?? This change only really helps 10 man where you might not have a druid in the raid if the cap (unless the raids i've been in just had people failing at rezzing) is in place in Cata. Still a nice change nonetheless.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Geomatician View Post
    Isn't there a cap in place as of 4.0.1 and will continue into Cataclysm on the amount of players in both 10/25 who can be Battle Rezzed. IIRC 2 in 25 and 1 in 10 per fight??
    Hmm, I haven't heard anything about that change coming. Is that in some patch notes somewhere and I missed it?
    Personal site: http://fuh-q.com
    My Kitteh's personal site: http://kitteh.in

  10. #50
    Bloodsail Admiral
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    1,248
    I was sort of wrong reading this post about Brez it says druids have a shared 30min cooldown. I have seen druids in our raids being unable to rez a second or third person after someone had already being rezzed earlier. However this post points out that it isnt really a cap more like a shared exhaustion between the druids. This may probably happen to warlocks aswell.

  11. #51
    The Patient
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    295
    I really like this idea tho.

  12. #52

  13. #53
    Bloodsail Admiral
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    1,248
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    ?????

    Obviously things like Rebirth can't just be handed to out to more classes unless we did something like a second exhaustion mechanic for battle rez or whatever. For now we're going to try the cooldown at 30 min again. In Icecrown's world of limited attempts, a 30 min cooldown likely meant you just cooled your heels until the cooldown was available again. In Cataclysm the hope is sometimes you'll have the benefit available but not every time, which scales back on how much of a game-changer it is.

    An alternative to a longer cooldown for Rebirth is something where one druid using it would trip everyone's cooldown for a few minutes. That it's a bit gamey, but might solve the problem.

    Also keep in mind that Rebirth is much more useful in today's game where people tend to die from massive damage. In a world where people sometimes die because the healers have run out of mana, then Rebirth doesn't buy you quite as much.

    In a 25 player raid, you're most likely going to have a druid of some kind. The challenge is the 10 player raid. We don't want a druid to be required (just like we don't want a shaman to be required). You can argue that using Rebirth to recover from a death is just inherently harder in 10s since the opportunity cost is larger when 10% of your group is down, and yet another player is going to have to donate some time to bring that person back up. Beneficial, definitely. Mandatory? Maybe not.
    Where are you reading "4 rebirths one fight"

    That quote was made by ghostcrawler some weeks back.

  14. #54

  15. #55
    Best Kitten Simca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    8,836
    This thread is over 3 months old... should probably make a new topic to talk about this considering it was necroed.
    Global Moderator | Forum Guidelines

  16. #56
    Bloodsail Admiral
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    1,248
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    That does only add to the confusion as many people have been reporting being unable to rez like I said.

    And to not only prove you right but to prove myself wrong on the same fight last wednesday we used 3 rebirths!

    Geo is stoopid

    Still though I remember the moaning from our druids at some point over the last few weeks! And posts on the forums did seem to back me up. Nevermind me, carry on.

  17. #57

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •