No one in my guild wants to even step into the 25 man RS. I am the only one. So I will never see 25 man RS because no one PUGs it either.
No one in my guild wants to even step into the 25 man RS. I am the only one. So I will never see 25 man RS because no one PUGs it either.
Directly from WoWprogress.
H: The Lich King (25): 394 (0.63%)
H: Halion (25): 301 (0.48%)
Now, now, I know Lich King has been out much longer. It is definitely much harder than Halion.
But it is not faceroll. Normal mode is very easy, but heroic is not a walk in the park by any stretch of the imagination. Stop calling it faceroll, folks.
There is no point arguing if it's harder than LK or not because "hard" is an opinion. I haven't found LKHM in 10 or 25 "hard" since April/May.
1664 people have killed HalHM10. 301 HalHM25.
1706 people have killed LKHM10. 394 LKHM25.
RS isn't hard, but either is LKHM. We have guilds on our server that pug and all HMs in 10 including Arthas. There is a big difference between 10s and 25s, which people like to forget.
Halion is easy enough, but the rewards for doing it are not nearly enough for all that trash. Yay for an hours worth of trash for a couple abyss crystals!
I pugged RS 25 a few weeks ago, it wasn't really that hard. Make it a requirement to not be stupid, usually it's a 12 year old that dies to the cutters.
I don't think there are alot of RS pugs on my realm they fail at the split-boss, usually its cleared by guilds. My guild has cleared it on normal mode for 10 man, found it annoying. Worked on HM, found it even way more annoying especially when some has internet issues, not really an entertaining content "to keep us busy" before expac release.
In some ways i think the RS content has backfired hard for Blizz. I do want to down HM Halion but the raid group I'm in has "HAY LETS GET BANE O FALLEN KING" mentality, and summer-released content sucks, fk'n attendance issues.
In the failed attempts my pug had, I don't think as single one of them would have been helped by a 30% buff and none of the previous wipes were anywhere near close enough that we would have finished it before we wiped. I can't think of any mechanics that will wipe you that would be survivable or easier with a 30% buff (at least for normal 10 man).
I feel your pain. Ruby Sanctum is not hard at all, but seems impossible to complete in a pug. All it takes is one retarded healer to screw the pooch and there always seems to be one on every pug I've ever been in.
I really don't get it. I find the encounter to be relatively easy. All it takes is paying attention and some communication on phase 3.
I run 25 man with my guild every week. I'm usually pretty raid aware and always either first or second on heals charts, but for RS my guild forces me to stay outside the twilight realm due to me being so focused on healing the 2k ticking debuff that I ignore the cookie cutter. Leave 1 tank and 2 heals outside twilight realm along with any morons (i.e. myself) who can't move out of the cookie cutter
Ah, lasers: The other form of "don't stand in the fires!" I'm very surprised at how many people have died on the Devourer of Souls fight in Forge of Souls (given how far in advance he telegraphs the attack), so by extension I guess I'm not surprised five people die when Halion fires his lasers.
Then again, I haven't subscribed to WoW since March, so I wouldn't know what the Halion fight is like.
I hate it too but because it is so easy and most of the 10 man loot is garbage and heroic 25 is kicking my ass
Last edited by fangless; 2010-08-24 at 03:24 PM.