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    Would Selling a Beta Key be illegal/against the EULA?

    As the title says would selling a Cataclysm Beta Key be illegal? Or buying one? Just curious.

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    Due to the fact that "Cataclysm keys" Don't technically exist, and are therefore assigned to a Battle.Net account, You would have to sell the account, which as far as I know, Is Illegal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    As the title says would selling a Cataclysm Beta Key be illegal? Or buying one? Just curious.
    It wouldn't be illegal, it would just really piss off Blizzard if they found out and probably get your account banned

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    Quote Originally Posted by beno113 View Post
    Due to the fact that "Cataclysm keys" Don't technically exist, and are therefore assigned to a Battle.Net account, You would have to sell the account, which as far as I know, Is Illegal
    This. You don't actually get any kind of Code emailed to you, you just simply have the ability to download the beta client and log into the beta server added to your account. To transfer this would you have to sell your account (which is a violation of the Terms of Service) or give out your account information (which is just poor security).
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    Quote Originally Posted by beno113 View Post
    Due to the fact that "Cataclysm keys" Don't technically exist, and are therefore assigned to a Battle.Net account, You would have to sell the account, which as far as I know, Is Illegal
    There is a thing called contests. They give out actual keys. srsly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruhnDK View Post
    There is a thing called contests. They give out actual keys. srsly.
    This.

    The Wowhead contest gave out keys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruhnDK View Post
    There is a thing called contests. They give out actual keys. srsly.
    not all

    the contest i won to get my key had it applied to my email.

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    There are beta keys out there I understand; I mean all the competitions probably work with keys (otherwise you'd have to tell those sites your account information or some of it so they could tell Blizzard to activate and I don't think they do that). I don't have one to sell or anything (though I have seen people advertise they are selling and most of them have been confirmed as scammers). I am just curious if someone is well versed on the EULA and knows if this is legal or not.

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    Not only contests, Addon authors and media get actual keys too
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    Not 100% sure, but I did come across the section in the terms of use which is likely to determine that.

    Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.
    Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of WoW Accounts or Blizzard Accounts (each an "Account"). You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. Blizzard owns, has licensed, or otherwise has rights to all of the content that appears in the Game. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including without limitation the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with the Account or stored on the Service. Blizzard does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for "real" money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game.

    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html

    I underlined the sections which to me stand out.
    You have no ownership of attributes accociated with the account, or stored on the service.
    -- To me that says that you cannot sell a key which is "stored on the service".

    You may not sell in-game items or currency for "real" money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the game.
    -- A beta key to me would most certainly qualify both as an in-game item, being a key to grant access to specific content, and it having value outside of the game, as in desirable to other players, such that they may offer money for it.

    Take my interepretations of that as you will, or make your own decisions.

    It has not prevented the private sales of keys, though they are as far as I can tell falling foul of the terms of use, so be sure you can trust anyone involved or aware of it should you go down that route.
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    So we should have people that sell the blizzcon stuff banned also I mean that is in game stuff where as a key is not.
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    Hmm I'd agree on a key being considered Stored on the Service. Seems like a reasonable interpretation. I did find myself with a second beta key during WotLK (won one in a comnpetition early on and before using it got one from Blizzard at the second wave of invites) bit I just gave it to a friend. I was just googling cata beta keys last night trying to see if any competition is still available and I just found it curious how many people were purportedly selling keys (and often being disproven as scammers soon after). Heck I even found multiple copies of a supposed keygen online which was bound to be malicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furydeath View Post
    So we should have people that sell the blizzcon stuff banned also I mean that is in game stuff where as a key is not.
    Yeah, this is why I was uncertain. People sell the keys from Blizzcon or even unused CDKeys all over Ebay and similar marketplaces. Not to mention loot cards from the TCG.

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    The blizzcon merchandise at least for the most part is something physical only, and has no-ingame functionality, or use.
    Those items I see nothing wrong with selling for real money, though it may be an issue paying gold for them.
    Loot cards offer at least something physical for use outside the game, even if its value is near negligable compared to the code itself.
    Until the panel on a loot card is scratched off, then it remains only as something physical, with no-ingame use.
    You can sell a sealed collectors edition, or any edition of that matter of one of the wow games, since as long as it remains sealed, and the code or anything else redeemable remains inacessible then it does not qualify as something useable in-game.

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