1. #3481
    Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the first wrong was just money and the second was people's lives =)

    Greed is a petty thing to fight over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Hating a corrupt nobility is one thing. Turning into a terrorist organization that kills innocent civilians in its blind quest for some sort of childish "revenge?" Unacceptable.

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    And let that be a lesson to all his terrorist friends (and his daughter).
    Not cool ~.~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the first wrong was just money and the second was people's lives =)

    Greed is a petty thing to fight over.
    Greed? 10 years of the best work he had ever done. Imagine not getting paid for 10 years after everything he had done.
    10 years, the prime of his life, doing the most impressive work humans have ever seen. And then he gets spat at?

    If the Dwarves had done that and been refused pay, they would have killed the Nobles. They wouldn't have given it a second thought. They would have taken out their axes / hammers and smashed their heads in. Then they would have been killed by Guards and it would be Civil War. And the Dwarves would have won, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the first wrong was just money and the second was people's lives =)

    Greed is a petty thing to fight over.
    He was not really greedy, just pissed off by corrupt bastards who did not give him what he deserved and rather wanted him to betray his friends and fellow Stonemason workers who had shared as much sweat and pain as he had with rebuilding Stormwind.

    and lets stop there don't want this thread closed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the first wrong was just money and the second was people's lives =)

    Greed is a petty thing to fight over.
    wait 2months more and 5lvls and you can add vanessa to that picture of VanCleef(dead)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the first wrong was just money and the second was people's lives =)

    Greed is a petty thing to fight over.
    Also, he didn't kill Civilians. Some of the Defias did, but who said he ordered that? The Defias was started to get revenge on the Nobles, but it attracted bandits and VanCleef can't control all of them. If someone does something bad in the name of the Defias, it isn't VanCleef's fault.
    That's like saying Rommel was an evil person who deserved to be killed because some of his soldiers did bad things. No >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by trulte View Post
    (no head or heart loot, means a setback can be made) This is making the VanCleefs epic and awesome, but now i wanna know who the mother of Vanessa is
    Setbacks can always be made! Undead Onyxia would like to have a word with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Hating a corrupt nobility is one thing. Turning into a terrorist organization that kills innocent civilians in its blind quest for some sort of childish "revenge?" Unacceptable.
    Like lying to the most powerful mortal druid because of some childish "revenge" is?

    Van Cleef is awesome, one of the best tragic heroes in Warcraft. Hey, even Arthas was led astray and became a monster, Sylvanas is an evil-minded bitch, but the stories of both are interesting and compelling.

    Dunno, I can't hate a character for what they do. If I do hate them it's because they're either being hypocritical or their story is weak.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Renagade Raven View Post
    Also, he didn't kill Civilians. Some of the Defias did, but who said he ordered that? The Defias was started to get revenge on the Nobles, but it attracted bandits and VanCleef can't control all of them. If someone does something bad in the name of the Defias, it isn't VanCleef's fault.
    That's like saying Rommel was an evil person who deserved to be killed because some of his soldiers did bad things. No >_>
    It is yet his fault for creating the organization in the first place. And before we get into another Maiev argument, she never did anything wrong to anyone. Have your own personal opinions about how bad her lie to Furion was, but Tyrande lived, anyway, and even if she hadn't, you couldn't have blamed Maiev for it when Tyrande jumped off the bridge of her own free will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    It is yet his fault for creating the organization in the first place.
    Well what would you have done in the mind set of Maiev if you had been spat at kicked in the stomach and told to betray your friends after you have done the best work you had ever done that took ten whole years of your life. Also lets pretend Night elves lives just as long as humans on this.
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  10. #3490
    Here's an on topic response;
    Someone draw a fan art of Tyrande falling off a bridge, I can't seem to find one =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    It is yet his fault for creating the organization in the first place. And before we get into another Maiev argument, she never did anything wrong to anyone. Have your own personal opinions about how bad her lie to Furion was, but Tyrande lived, anyway, and even if she hadn't, you couldn't have blamed Maiev for it when Tyrande jumped off the bridge of her own free will.
    I never said anything against Maiev =P
    I can try that Tyrande picture some time.
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    i've only found some maiev pic


    so much info on wowsite.

    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...opedia/598.xml

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Dalliah- View Post
    Couldn't find any "Tyrande falling off a bridge art" so I drew one myself.

    i lolled

    and i improved it with my uber paint skillz

    http://yfrog.com/28tyrandej
    Last edited by Synaia; 2010-10-18 at 08:24 PM.

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    I improved on that further.

    And yes, Maiev does walk very fast.



    Poor Tyrande never got to hand in her quest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synaia View Post
    i lolled

    and i improved it with my uber paint skillz

    http://yfrog.com/28tyrandej
    why the hell does she have a brown arm???

    on a sidenote: I'm happy, I got a folded letter X3
    I want to have daughters... but if I end up having sons I'll raise them like this X3

  17. #3497
    Time for some more boss drawings of lolten core, featuring Garr, Golemagg, and Executus!




  18. #3498
    Something I have been working on today on and off. A friends character being drawn on request.
    Far from finished but I thought I'd share it in it's current state anyway.
    http:/ /img829. imageshack. us/img829/2033/vindi. jpg
    Will post it again when it's done.
    Last edited by seffian; 2010-10-18 at 10:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seffian View Post
    Something I have been working on today on and off. A friends character being drawn on request.
    Far from finished but I thought I'd share it in it's current state anyway.
    http:/ /img829. imageshack. us/img829/2033/vindi. jpg
    Will post it again when it's done.


    posted it for ya

    Mountains of muffins to Keosen for the awesome sig!

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    Thanks :>
    Looking forward to being able to post stuff myself.
    Would make this so much easier

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