/sick of soft-porn-manga-style-denuded-women - some of them are actually quite ... awkward, some paedophiles in here ?
But there are here some great pieces too ! Keep up the good job and maybe one day we'll get rid of the fantasy-pornography.
/sick of soft-porn-manga-style-denuded-women - some of them are actually quite ... awkward, some paedophiles in here ?
But there are here some great pieces too ! Keep up the good job and maybe one day we'll get rid of the fantasy-pornography.
I wouldn't say pedos. Most of the picture posted are not done by the posters but you do gotta question a few of the artists but hey w/e floats their boat. Poor lonely boys.
Kidding.
lol. Truffles is perfect.
You're welcome.
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I can sort of see where you're coming from, and anime-style art isn't my 'thing,' but I can't knock it. What's wrong with a little porn or cheesecake?I know that some porn can be a little over the top, but if you look hard enough there's some really good stuff out there.
Okay, that sounded sort of wrong. What I meant by 'good stuff' was that there are art pieces showing sexual activity that are beautifully painted. You just gotta look.![]()
Amazing!!
I absolutely love the Phoenix.
Great artwork! I especially like the Chromie oneOriginally Posted by Rachel
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Awwwwwww! :')
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These are great! Zaebrael, your phoenix is beautiful!
And Rachel your *montage of pictures* was also superb! I can't help but wonder at how most of your pictures with the worgen hybrids and all that can be so ugly, but artistically beautiful. I applaud all art in this thread!
@Rachel, awesome pieces again! your ideas of new or combined races and creatures amaze me again and again
i especially like the bat-elf-thing this time.
and the female worgen is hilarious xD
also, i guess that story would have made most people feel quite bad :/
*patpat*
1) nudity =/= soft porn. neither is sexualized dressing.
2) would you care to point out an example for paedophilia in here? because i fail to remember any.
i can understand that some people are annoyed and/or offended by the oversexualization of female characters in (fantasy) games, and sometimes i am too, in extreme cases. but throwing random insults at random people is most likely not the best way to deal with it.
Remember sex sales.
Compare how many people would rather play or see a movie with an attractive female over a not so attractive female. We're vain creatures. Sadly it doesn't help that we've been raised one way or another to scorn fat or bigger women, even men in some cases. Depends on your background completely though. Take Adele (the singer) for example. She is a bigger woman but she is indeed beautiful both body and voice (subjective) but if I had a choice to play a character with her body type compared to a more comparative thinner type, I'd choose the thinner type. That is not to say I prefer twigs or super model bodies though, I actually like "average" female body types like in WoW's case either human, night elf, or orcs. Plump them just a LEeeeeeeettttle bit and there we go.
Humans are built on sex as are all living things. It's how we survive as a species. We need sex in our lives and that's why we have Rule #34. Regardless of what it is, someone is going to sexualize something...like Furniture.
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TL : DR - Accept that there's gonna be scantly drawn wymmins
First time posting here so be gentleThis is what I started last night while on Standby for the guild raid, some of my line work is still showing and not quite sure on the hair atm but pretty pleased with it so far.
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My Work: Here
I don't believe people complaining about scantily clad women are in denial of the fact that *people* like to look at nice things. However, its appears that often in fantasy art or game design, in that sentence *people* gets substituted for *men* and that is what is easy to take offense to. Defining this approach to designing female characters and clothing as what is normal and human nature just alienates all those who don't share the taste of the designer and while I am perfectly happy going with "different strokes for different folks" as a general rule and can appreciate somebody's art even if I don't personally share their idea of beauty, I find it frustrating when people try to form a general consensus on what is attractive for *everybody*, especially when I get the impression that I don't really figure into their definition of "everybody".
Add to that numerous occasions where the design goes beyond attractiveness and becomes sexualised and you'll quickly find that the woman as eye-candy image gives off the idea that that is all women are there for. Its rather infrequent that you see overly sexualised depictions of male characters (compared to female characters), rarer even that you'll find male characters missing bits of armour to cleverly show off skin (or perhaps show their enemies where to point their swords/arrows/magic missiles for maximum effect). I will concede that there are a number of bare chested images of male characters, although I'm not certain if they have the same intention as bikini-clad female characters: it seems rather that women are drawn sexy to appeal to (certain) men, men are depicted as strong - which also appeals to (those) men. While its a bonus if these things also appeal to women, it doesn't appear to be their primary goal.
Now, don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with this style as personal taste. I myself sometimes like to look at pretty women (or men!) in nice outfits or even appreciate the humour in having a tiny little blood elf in a plate bikini beat up a dragon the size of the Eiffel Tower, but the sheer amount of scantily clad, drop-dead gorgeous female characters can get rather wearing and I'd appreciate more diversity. I believe that its also important to look beyond personal taste into what ideas such imagery can evoke and whether or not there is a cultural effect (rather than the biological one you surmise) that leads to (and is in turn reflected by) sexualised depictions of female characters. To put it bluntly: what message does it convey about our attitude towards women if we insist on designing female characters to be predominantly sexy? I'm not sure I can comfortably accept such a concept in a world where real women suffer from similar and/or far worse attitudes towards them and their status as human beings throughout the world.
nice post Sionae, interesting thoughts and i agree with pretty much everything you just said
although i'd just like to add, regarding your question in the end, said design - or liking it - does not actually mean seeing women as lesser, sexual objectified beeings.
i know (well, i guess, at least) you didn't mean to say it does, but many people who are offended by that design (and often for good reason, originally) seem to equal "i enjoy looking at sexy females in general" with "i think of females in general as sexual objects" or "i think of females who aren't 'sexy' as lesser human beeings in general". and this attitude is not only based on an insulting generalization itself, but also sometimes hindering an objective, mature discussion about the issue.
for me personally, it doesn't really matter that much. i've thought and talked quite a lot about it, but in the end it comes down to this:
i never have nor will (intentionally) treat or think of any human beeing better or worse based on looks.
i despise people who do treat others based solely on looks or even think that "sexyness" is the only thing a person or gender is good for.
i simply enjoy looking at sexy female bodies, fictional or real, and i don't see why that should be bad in any way in itself
and since this is an art thread..^^
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draymores...
don't judge me! :x
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yeah, just had to down- and reupload it :/
big version here.