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  1. #41
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    Guys stop crying, hunters will have 1 of these buffs up at one time, not all of them :P. Really interesting to see people crying because they will now have more buffs available in 10mans. Arenas will barely matter because of rated BGs. Im wondering if you will still have to be BM for Corehound though...

  2. #42
    I don't see what the big issue is. It's like being a Shaman, the exact same concept. Pulling out whatever totem is needed, BLing, being able to heal and rez yourself... Diversity is not OP or bad. Don't be mad because you're a Warrior and can't bring this to the table.

    I personally am not going to roll BM just for pet buffs. It's silly. I'll play the spec I want and get whatever pet I want. And then some people will feel the need to lose DPS for pet viability and diversity, and they will, and that's how they'll play.

    But instead, please, more Rogues and Warriors and Shamans who don't feel special, come in and try to get everyone else nerfed because you can't be everything. *eyeroll*

  3. #43
    The only thing I don't really like about Ancient Hysteria (aside from it sounding like a DK ability) is that it's for a single talent spec. The other two spells are available to a class, this is a specific talent tree within a class. For a lot of Hunters this is going to mean either their primary or secondary spec will NEED to be Beastmastery, especially if your focus is going to be 10-player content. It just feels strange to force such a powerful buff on a single spec. Not to mention a specific *pet* within the spec.

    Aside from that, it's nice to see Bloodlust/Heroism on a third class.

  4. #44
    That's the thing, though. They gave more people BL so that a class or spec WOULDN'T be mandatory. If anything, this opens up posibilitys, not closes them out.

    And Hunters are already forced into a 'best pet' thing.

    I highly doubt anyone will ever cry because a Hunter isn't BM with the right pet because I've never been in a raid that doesn't have a Shaman OR Mage. It's not that rare.

  5. #45
    loving the hunter changes. to be fair its not that big of a deal with there new abilety's now pet finnaly have usefullness in a raid and whatkazefiend says totaly agree on it.

    tired of seeing my wolf and for people that wine about it not every hunter is going beastmaster in a raid yes the buffs are handy but in a 25 man raid you got all the buffs in the raid that the pet provides so not really any use of a hunter bm there.

    its to fill up the blanks in most raids like 10 man because its shit that only a shaman, (in cata also mage) can do bloodlust because on some servers thre arent many of those classes around.

    so stop qqing and wait to see what will change because its never permanent because people whine to mutch that its op

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Knirps View Post
    That's the thing, though. They gave more people BL so that a class or spec WOULDN'T be mandatory. If anything, this opens up posibilitys, not closes them out.

    And Hunters are already forced into a 'best pet' thing.

    I highly doubt anyone will ever cry because a Hunter isn't BM with the right pet because I've never been in a raid that doesn't have a Shaman OR Mage. It's not that rare.
    Yeah I think the saving grace for this is that Mages are extremely common. I can't remember the last time I did a 10-player raid without one.

    So in that sense, it's not too bad. It's still a bit weird it's for a single spec though. I'd say it would be like adding the Blessing of Kings buff back as a talent, but they did that with an Exotic pet ability too. ;p

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Kody View Post
    Yeah I think the saving grace for this is that Mages are extremely common. I can't remember the last time I did a 10-player raid without one.

    So in that sense, it's not too bad. It's still a bit weird it's for a single spec though. I'd say it would be like adding the Blessing of Kings buff back as a talent, but they did that with an Exotic pet ability too. ;p
    As long as being BM with a core hound is a sizeable personal DPS nerf compared to other pets/specs, I don't think it's very OP. It's more of an emergency solution if your 10-man doesn't have a mage or shaman.

    It might be OP in rated battlegrounds, though.

  8. #48
    Well, being BM no matter what is somewhat of a DPS downer... They just plain don't have that much throughput. So, like I said before, you take some of your own DPS and abilities away to being a versitility pet to the raid.

  9. #49
    Those Pet abilities better be alternatives, some of that did not had to change at all.

  10. #50
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    i love the mount ! But how can the achievement be a guild achievement ? it looks like a solo thing.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonkheer View Post
    i love the mount ! But how can the achievement be a guild achievement ? it looks like a solo thing.
    It's a collective achievement. I agree it does seem a bit easy so maybe they'll change it to require rep or cost a lot of gold too. Like I mention in my news post, the gold cost may not be correct at the moment because the reward window is kind of buggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonkheer View Post
    i love the mount ! But how can the achievement be a guild achievement ? it looks like a solo thing.
    I can't think of a way to explain it for some reason... But basically you have to just get exalted with each of the factions as a guild? So, let's say that you're exalted with all the factions but The Knights of the Ebon Blade, then someone comes into your guild who is exalted with that faction. You get the achievement. For some reason it's hard to explain, but I hope it helps.

  13. #53
    The hunter and DK changes seem really cool. Too bad I play neither of those classes.

  14. #54
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    The Hunter pet changes will especially help 10man raids, and the Bloodlust is not OP at all... No one will ever use the Core Hound pet in 25man raids though. :P

  15. #55
    Screw the corehound, ill be rocking a devilsaur anyway, 5% crit ASWELL as the 12% extra damage from his monstrousbite.. hell ya

  16. #56
    First they give me a murloc costume as a tier and after that they give me those awesome pet changes. I really don't know whether I love you or hate you blizz, you keep screwing my mind

  17. #57
    The hunter changes are goddamn bullshit!
    Mages get a redundant spell as their 85 spell, disappointing enough. But now we're getting competition on this already weak ability BY A FUCKING PET?!

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Kody View Post
    Not to mention a specific *pet* within the spec.
    You have to remember hunters will have 5 (I think 5, anyway more than one) "active" pets at a time they can swap between at any time outside of combat. And the stables will house even more pets, so you should expect your decent hunters to at least have one of each pet family standing at the ready.

    As for it being BM only, I figure they didn't want to make heroism too common either. 3 shaman spec + 3 mage specs and 1 hunter spec seems plenty to make sure it's available in 10-man raids.

    And to the guy saying you could make a raid with all dps being hunters, the opposite is true too you can make a raid with all buffs without any hunters. What's the point again?

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Iko View Post
    That mount is pure awesome!

    For some reason I'm disappointed that he didn't jump while riding it...
    Alright, here you go:



    Uploaded to my personal Youtube so the Curse subscribers don't get spammed with it.

  20. #60
    Finally a reason to play my hunter in raids now.

    I agree with being able to have different pets in raids. Get tired of looking at hunters with wolves.

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