Goodbye vanish bug! and hello CoS bug! ( ? )

[K4ge]

I was talking about battlegrounds, which will be far more important in terms of pvp than they are currently. Not mindless 3v3 arena. But thanks.

Still an l2p issue, as a lock (no matter what spec) you should have not problems versus rogues no matter what.
And yes, cloak should be an immunity. It wouldn't make rogues op, if anything it would take us closer to balanced

[Sahand]

How does this relate to vanish?

vanish bug is one of the most annoying things to deal with as a rogue. now that cloak of shadows is suppose to be 100% magic resistant and from the video there will be occassions where this isnt true, vanish bug can take a seat as we will have something frustrating to deal with even tho this isn't really a 'bug'

[Baabinator]

Grounding Totem, and Spell Reflect act exactly the same.

You need to pre-cast it before it has any effect.

[Deleted]

working as intended because you pop cloak AFTER spell is cast. it has nothing to do with cloak bugs, its an inherited game mechanic in cata (they changed the proc system on in-flight missles to only affect on spellcast, not spellhit)

[Deleted]

And yes, cloak should be an immunity. It wouldn't make rogues op, if anything it would take us closer to balanced

^ this

[Mistgun]

bad troll is bad
chaos bolt always goes through cloak and cloaking anything in flight does NOT, I repeat, does NOT work. Stop talking bull

I wasn't trying to troll, I was thinking of vanish, my apologies :x.

But anyway, IMO I feel that 100% spell resist wouldn't be op, our cloak is meant to be an oh shit button without having the risk of it failing.

Buts that's just my 2 cents.

[K4ge]

Fair enough I guess.

No, it would not make us up. With the current state of arena and 80% castercleave running around shitting on anything and everything it would make our class a lot less frustrating to play

[weshallarise]

welcome to deterrence

[f1li1p]

But anyway, IMO I feel that 100% spell resist wouldn't be op, our cloak is meant to be an oh shit button without having the risk of it failing.

cloack is actually 200% to ignore spell pen

[Batranu the 2nd]

looks like i'm the only one clever enough to understand.
Here is what you failed to comprehend:
_magical effects like bolts hits their targets BEFORE the animation does
_on the OP video the rogue is so slow he uses cloak WAY too late after the cast but BEFORE the animation hits. If he were to be good enough (read: not bad a this game) he would not have made a clip showing 10 times his incapacity to desmontrate what he thought was a bug.

years of wow and still can grasp game's mechanics makes me SAD

if the frostbolt hits the target before the animation the give-away would be the chilled effect applying before the animated bolt lands. as he's standing still and clos'ed on top of that there's no way to tell if this is the case. so unless you have a way of proving what you just claimed, the old version seems legit, stating that buffs/immunities are calculated at the precise moment the bolt has finished casting, and are not recalculated at the moment of impact.
sure, i've had chilled effect land on me before the bolt, but that was latency. not to mention that was on live while this is the beta server. if they reshaped vanish they sure can touch every other similar mechanic.

[Drifted]

Like it's said multiple times alredy in this thread spells calculate their chance to hit instantly after the cast finishes. So when he activates CloS the spell already calculated if it will hit or not.

And for the sake of future ignorant people who come whining that CloS should be totall immunity to spells. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGTH.

http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=31224
Apply Aura: Mod Attacker Spell Hit Chance - % (126)
Value: -200

So there it is. 200% chance for spells to miss. Of course it's beta/PTR but unless there's a change there's no point come cry about it being RNG anymore.

[Egitel]

as a lock (no matter what spec) you should have not problems versus rogues no matter what.

Obvious troll is obvious.

[fanlol]

How is he trolling?

[Sahand]

Obvious troll is obvious.

??? must be bait

[K4ge]

Obvious troll is obvious.

Seriously. Destruction rapes rogues in duels and affliction has more than a fair chance. I think you're just a terrible player.

[Wælcyrie]

how come ALOT of hes second frostbolts hit to then?

Because he's lucky getting the 10% chance to hit? :S

[Avlli]

Still an l2p issue, as a lock (no matter what spec) you should have not problems versus rogues no matter what.

rofl are you joking ?
Lock can do shit when rogues is on him.
Ele shaman can do shit aswell.
Mage is dead after 3s.

If You are saying that Rogues are weaker then any caster it just means YOU ARE HORRIBLE PLAYER as rogue.

[fanlol]

No it means you're a horrible player as a caster.
He's not kidding, any caster (except an ele shammy for obvious reasons) should not lose to a rogue.
And if you do it's either a huge gearing problem or you're just bad.
I'm gonna go with my 2nd option and assume you're bad.

[stabetha]

don't forget come cataclysm we can only stun once before diminishing returns kick in so we need more defensive abilities

[K4ge]

rofl are you joking ?
Lock can do shit when rogues is on him.
Ele shaman can do shit aswell.
Mage is dead after 3s.

If You are saying that Rogues are weaker then any caster it just means YOU ARE HORRIBLE PLAYER as rogue.

So I play the probably most difficult comp at 2500 because I'm terrible...

Just look at places like arenajunkies or ask good arena players, what they think. They will laugh at your idiocy.

I suppose I get the lock and elemental parts (even if they aren't quite true), but mage is the biggest roguecounter there is (apart from healers, but whatever)