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    what in the... that doesn't sound like garrosh AT ALL. IT sounds like a competent being that's not a total imbecile.

    Did his personality do another 180?? o.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wutlol365 View Post
    what in the... that doesn't sound like garrosh AT ALL. IT sounds like a competent being that's not a total imbecile.

    Did his personality do another 180?? o.o
    Inconsistent writing is inconsistent. As has been said, Blizzard can't seem to decide how they want Garrosh to act. First he's an emo git in Nagrand/TBC, then a bloodthirsty hot head in Northrend/Wrath, and now he's still bloodthirsty, but slightly more level headed in Cataclysm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Inconsistent writing is inconsistent. As has been said, Blizzard can't seem to decide how they want Garrosh to act. First he's an emo git in Nagrand/TBC, then a bloodthirsty hot head in Northrend/Wrath, and now he's still bloodthirsty, but slightly more level headed in Cataclysm.
    For the life of me I don't remember what blue said it, but Blizzard said more or less they are trying to make Garrosh more respectable and a cool guy... or something. Whatever it is they think they are doing with Garrosh, I think they are failing at it. Seriously, a Gnome needs to go up to Garrosh and PUNT the damned orc off a cliff. It would be a fitting end for him. Also lulzy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Inconsistent writing is inconsistent. As has been said, Blizzard can't seem to decide how they want Garrosh to act. First he's an emo git in Nagrand/TBC, then a bloodthirsty hot head in Northrend/Wrath, and now he's still bloodthirsty, but slightly more level headed in Cataclysm.
    They also cant seem to figure out who he looks like he looked like his dad a slim orc in cata he looks orge size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoots View Post
    For the life of me I don't remember what blue said it, but Blizzard said more or less they are trying to make Garrosh more respectable and a cool guy... or something. Whatever it is they think they are doing with Garrosh, I think they are failing at it. Seriously, a Gnome needs to go up to Garrosh and PUNT the damned orc off a cliff. It would be a fitting end for him. Also lulzy
    They are failing at it in my opinion. They were off to an okay start by at least showing he knows something about Honor, dropping one of his commanders off a lift for the slaughter of innocents, kicking all the Grimtotem out of ThunderBluff after Cairne, and a couple others. That's his honorable side, but unfortunately his competence side is still lacking, evident by the opening scenes of Twilight Highlands.

    We're flying through enemy territory, not really knowing what to expect, but I see a bunch of Alliance ships down there. I'm going to send my entire fighter escort screen down to attack them and leave the zeppelins defenseless to air attack. Oh, look! Twilight Dragons are attacking and destroying the zeps! GET OFF MY SHIP!!!! derp derp derp :P

    Oh, and keep your damned, filthy little gnome feet off our faction leader. Garrosh is a Horde problem and Horde shall deal with him. It won't take long for us Bilgewater to swindle him out of complete ownership of the Horde. ;D

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    I went and checked Thunderbluff. Still nothing happening there, not even doomsayers. I guess they only are in Orgrimmar since that is where everyone lives... Tauren get no love

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Inconsistent writing is inconsistent. As has been said, Blizzard can't seem to decide how they want Garrosh to act. First he's an emo git in Nagrand/TBC, then a bloodthirsty hot head in Northrend/Wrath, and now he's still bloodthirsty, but slightly more level headed in Cataclysm.
    I'll keep that in mind.

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    I see it as this, We are getting a stand in leader like the allys had for the first couple of years of wow or whatever so next x-pac thrall will be back and everything fine. YAY for thrall.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokann View Post
    Actually, he gave up his allegiance in order to keep his honor. I guess you meant the same thing, but worded it a bit weird.
    Heh sorry, I ment it as in gave up his honour in the Alliance, but kept his own, personal honour.
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    wow. Garrosh doesnt kill Cairne, the grimtotems poison him after they duel. The horde are notorious for duels. Cairne probably wanted to test his strength or something, and Magatha took it as an opportunity when he is wounded to poison him and make it seem like Garrosh killed him. Second, he didnt kick out Vol'jin, the trolls didnt like the way he was headed, so he is on the isles waiting for Thrall to return, but I'm sure he would still fight for the hordes sake. I'm not a fan of Garrosh, but I do know neither one of those accusations towards him are true.

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    No Cairne,Sylvanas, and Theron? Shame, I always like it when the horde leaders get together.

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    Does this mean saurfang is really retired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildstaff View Post
    Thrall does not leave mid cataclysm, he leaves before it happens
    learn to read. he said it 'should have' happened that way in his opinion.

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    have you ever heard of situational events causing people to change perspectives or act differently? garrosh's personality changes because the world changes and so does his outlook on things. get a grip and stop idolizing static characters with no development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okard View Post
    wow. Garrosh doesnt kill Cairne, the grimtotems poison him after they duel. The horde are notorious for duels. Cairne probably wanted to test his strength or something, and Magatha took it as an opportunity when he is wounded to poison him and make it seem like Garrosh killed him. Second, he didnt kick out Vol'jin, the trolls didnt like the way he was headed, so he is on the isles waiting for Thrall to return, but I'm sure he would still fight for the hordes sake. I'm not a fan of Garrosh, but I do know neither one of those accusations towards him are true.
    Right on everything except for Cairne's reason for challenging Garrosh. He did it because, like Vol'jin, he felt that Garrosh was being a dumbass and decided to try and put an end to it on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoots View Post
    For the life of me I don't remember what blue said it, but Blizzard said more or less they are trying to make Garrosh more respectable and a cool guy... or something. Whatever it is they think they are doing with Garrosh, I think they are failing at it. Seriously, a Gnome needs to go up to Garrosh and PUNT the damned orc off a cliff. It would be a fitting end for him. Also lulzy
    I think I read that they are going to release some short story to explain why Thrall puts up with Garrosh so much before Cataclysm comes out. It had better go a long way to explain why, otherwise Thrall was given the idiot ball by the writers. Garrosh and Varian are currently the main ones holding the conflict ball, but Varian is slightly more justified in his hatred of the Horde than Garroshs hatred of the Alliance, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I think I read that they are going to release some short story to explain why Thrall puts up with Garrosh so much before Cataclysm comes out. It had better go a long way to explain why, otherwise Thrall was given the idiot ball by the writers. Garrosh and Varian are currently the main ones holding the conflict ball, but Varian is slightly more justified in his hatred of the Horde than Garroshs hatred of the Alliance, imo.
    if you've ever looked into the history and actions of the alliance and most of the human nations you'd realize garrosh has the same, if not more, fuel for hatred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEEPKVTS View Post
    if you've ever looked into the history and actions of the alliance and most of the human nations you'd realize garrosh has the same, if not more, fuel for hatred.
    at what point in time has garrosh ever had a reason to hate alliance its like he literally walked out of the dark portal and said "you what i hate alliance so i can be a plot device for conflict"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEEPKVTS View Post
    if you've ever looked into the history and actions of the alliance and most of the human nations you'd realize garrosh has the same, if not more, fuel for hatred.
    ...Garrosh grew up in Outland, with little interaction with the Alliance; the only Alliance presence in Outland were the Sons of Lothar, and they were more concerned with self-preservation than going after the Mag'har. Where as Varian saw his father murdered by an orc as a child, along with his kingdom/people got slaughtered by the orcs in the first war. Then he was abducted by the Defias, and while suffering from amnesia, was used as a gladiatorial slave in the Hordes arenas. So yeah, there's that little problem. Garrosh never left Outland until after TBC when Thrall went to Garadar and told him of what Grom did to free the orcs from the demonic influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I think I read that they are going to release some short story to explain why Thrall puts up with Garrosh so much before Cataclysm comes out. It had better go a long way to explain why, otherwise Thrall was given the idiot ball by the writers. Garrosh and Varian are currently the main ones holding the conflict ball, but Varian is slightly more justified in his hatred of the Horde than Garroshs hatred of the Alliance, imo.
    Our he doesen't hate the alliance just varian for what he said in battle for uc. He has been proven to like night elf lap dances Krom you bombed my fave bar Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu.
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