So what? That's the choice he made when he decided to do those videos. I worked in retail. I know how stupid people can be. But I sucked it up and did my job. Finally, when I'd had enough, I found a job that didn't have that. Once again I say, if he doesn't want to deal with that, then he should either disable all comments on his videos, or go find something else to do.
And you and I both know that those are not the only questions he gets asked that he responds to in that way. Somebody told him to stop whining about not having tanks coming out of the woodwork to group with him, or else roll one himself, and he replied "Why should I have to go through all that just so I can play?" Because if you want other people to go through all that just for your benefit, then you shouldn't be surprised when other people expect the same of you.
That's what I have the problem with. His raging sense of entitlement. I've played for five years, and let me tell you, I've seen my share of idiots. The level 60 priest who didn't know what shackle was. The druid who wanted to need on the plate boots off one of the Scholo bosses. I've grouped with them, I've dealt with the wipes, I've felt the same frustration we've all felt. But I had enough class not to be an absolute arse about it.
Wrath has made a lot of players lazy with the way Blizz did things. Even worse for those that started playing DURING Wrath.
Now that Blizz seems to be going back to their old formula of "PAY THE FUCK ATTENTION" you'll be seeing alot of crying and qqing on the forums. As far as some players are concerned heroics are there simply to gear up for raids of which they likely have ZERO awareness for. Most of them never experience the smash your keyboard joy that was H Shattered Halls. Or H Shadow Labs. Or H Arcatraz...or even H mechanar.
These are the kind of players you'll spot quickly as long as Blizz doesn't touch the Cata heroics overly much. Those that stick around, grit their teeth and bother to try and learn will becomes better players. Those that couldn't be bothered to even learn how to operate their Occulus dragons will either quit and qq for months on the forums, despite claiming that they don't "have time" for challenging content since they have "Real Lives".
Fire in general should kill you or at least disfigure your face!
simply mechanics shouldn't flat out kill you under a few conditions, what are you doing in the fight, how much are you looking out for, does it happen at the same time as something else.
if your watching out for 6 things, you bound to slip up totalbiscuit suggests ONE HIT from rotface's slime spray should kill you, but if your running out it's hard to avoid that 1 hit.
it all depends on the fight and whats going on, heroic sindragosa simple mechanics do kill you, blood queen mind control. princes-fireball, saurfang-beasts 1 shot anything not in plate, rotface-explosion kills you, the other fights are designed to be races, and long hauls to put strain on your healers and tanks and make you have to keep going after you used your cooldown. fights like: Valithria, proffesor, marrowgar, gunship, lich king.
there are a lot of simple mechanics that get you killed, but it's hard to notice cause they are simple and usually quite easy to work around or avoid.
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I'm glad to have multiple personalities, if i didn't i would be talking to myself, and that's just insane.
fire = buff???
and by the way just been skimming through this thread and i see a lot of crap about loken's aoe oneshotting people - or being labelled a deadly mechanic.
i would just like to point out that this is one of the laziest concepts for damage control in the game in my opinion. not only is his aoe completely harmless when with a healer who is awake, but it does less damage the closer everyone is to it. so basically - hug = no damage - try escape = ur gna die
Except when we are at tier 13 or 14 and people do heroics to get tier 12 or 13 with justice points. They overgear it but still need to run heroics to catch up to the raiders (still not my favorite way of doing it but it's what a lot of people and blizzard wants). If you were one of these people and you are catching up to raiders don't you want to have some challenge in heroics, some more fun than overgearing it and just AoE spam?
If you want to relax and you think moving out of fire is not relax maybe you should just do normal dungeons or whatever.
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Obvious means they are obvious and easy to get out of. I don't think a 2 seconds lag will kill you when, for example, a rock falls from the sky and and you know 4 seconds in advance where it's going to drop.
Also who wants to play with that much lag anyway? But I guess we should all just make the game less interesting because Australia has a bad internet connection. I also guess that people from Australia never raid because they will wipe from one shot mechanics with their insane lag.
Sorry, but designing a game for people who have that much lag is not the right thing to do. Do you know any game that does that? "We removed headshots from counter-strike because people with lag have a disadvantage."?
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I think it's more about heroic 5 mans and not raids. The reason for one shot mechanics in heroic 5 mans is to keep them somewhat challenging when you overgear them. It's not fun when you can trivialize all the tactics of a boss when you overgear it. I don't think TB suggested that slime spray from rotface should be one shot. As you said there is much more going on in that fight than just slime spray.
But if you look at sindragosa and you get in airphase I think the bombs should one shot you. They are really obvious and you have more than enough time to hide. I think that now (not in hardmode) you would be able to nuke all the iceblocks asap and have healers spam heals and you will still survive 3 bombs without having any cover.
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The one and only example that I can kill you now is H PoS. Krick and Ick. It is by far my favorite 5 man encounter as it I think the only boss with mini-raid mechanics. I enjoy that fight because so many people fail at it... For example, his poison nova; most people are used to eating poison nova on the first boss in gundrak (who even gets a poison nova anymore) so why not eat this one too and end up dying. This relates so closely to sindragosa which is was the ultimate pug killer. And how many countless times I've seen melee not run away during pursuit, and get absolutely roflstomped. WotLK heroics became a state of "this is boring, let's just roflstorm and just heal me through everything so we can get here faster." Krick and Ick by far, the best 5 man heroic boss.
Agree.
they were not oneshot mechanics BECAUSE you could outgear them.
if it was a true oneshot mechanic lokens nova would just outright kill you, no qusetions asked.
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its people like you that will make this game boring.
"youd rather just do the place fast and easy"
fail quote if i ever heard it.
you have been indoctrinated into the "gimme badges" mindset.
btw...you shouldnt get your frost badges or equivalent without killing all bosses in a heroic.
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why are they playing wow when they are combat deployed is beyond me.
and why would you even try to suffer thru wow with a crappy computer/latency. do something else?
But really, i can understand the "i have high latency and cant help it" crowd, but dont defend the "im a moron" people plz.
simple way, make the obvious oneshot mechanics something that can be worked around with 500 latency (if you have higher then that, dont bother playing, blizz doesnt cater to people without internet, so they shouldnt cater to people with dialup or hughesnet)
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farmville
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not directing this at you cuz i think we are similar in opinion. but...why do people think "heroics" should be relaxing? its a HEROIC...if it wasnt difficult they should change what its called.
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to be fair it depended heavily on the mob.
my enh shaman in tbc would die as you said vs melee mobs, but a caster mob hit much weaker, and i could interrupt all its casts. so i was able to easily offtank it.
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note: sorry for all the replies, im playing catchup.
OT: there are ways to introduce insta kill mechanics that work around lag, and to an extent if you do lag hard, your gonna die, its just how it is.
also instakills are not meant to be clever, they are meant to be noticed, and worked around instead of thru. obviously there are other mechanics we can put in that you cant outgear (the voidzones making you useless or even benefiting the boss is a good one)
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actually it wasnt a oneshot mechanic. it was capable of oneshotting people geared for wotlk heroics. a healer back then couldnt heal everyone up so easily coupled with the dps you could pull out. if someone didnt die outright the healer ran oom before the fight was over.
but yes, now you dont have to.
New - Atramedes
you get too loud, he finds you and kills you....fantastic
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ur thinking of the wrong attack...lightning nova, not the other dmg debuff thing
Atramedes is proof there is hope for Cataclysm encounters. I have to say I've imagined a few interesting mechanics myself, but I never saw something like that coming, what a fantastic idea - I would love to commend the person who came up with it. If that's a taste of what awaits us then bring on Cata raiding I say. I don't expect every encounter to be so imaginative, but this is a great start and a great sign that they really are heading in the right direction encounter-wise, and have learned from their mistakes in ICC.
"The truth, my goal."
lol u got banned. For anyone who believes this though.
Pretty sure defile does that whole making dps responsible for more than dps thing.
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I completely agree and am totally stoked for encounters like this. Dunno if how many have seen the 3 boss encounter before Al'Akir, but the videos are great and the mechanics look challenging but fun to learn and just generally awesome.
Last edited by Hellphantine; 2010-10-27 at 09:09 PM.