Originally Posted by

**Yohassakura**
Expertise only surpasses crit, when your crit is soft-capped from you not having enough hit/expertise.

Dodge: 6.5%

Parry: 14%

Miss: 8%

- (Left over: 71.5%)

Crit: 51.1225

Hit: 20.3775

^ I "tried" to "cap" the crit at the 71.5%, however following the two-roll rule it came to 51.1225 crit, so that means that 20%~ crit was effectively lost from not having any expertise/hit.

I have 28.34% crit in bear, with just motw. +9% from pulverize is 37.34 and we get 1.7648...% from battleshout (that's with the 5% modifier from motw), so that's 39.1048...%. Afaik, that's all of the agility buffs that you'd get (unless you use an agility flask / pot).

In my current gear, i'd need another 12% crit before reaching that soft cap (With just the hit/expertise values = 0!).